Are you listening now bungie? Look at the comments here. The support you have is far outnumbered by the lack of support. You had to be there when.... - negative feedback Removing content - negative feedback Battle pass - negative feedback Reskinned content - negative feedback Price tag - negative feedback I get it, you won’t listen to us regular players. But when even Datto disagrees with your choices, datto who usually does nothing but fanboy over your bad decisions then you know you messed up I really honestly think you’re trying to end this franchise as quick as possible so you can move onto your next project and try to rebuild some form of reputation How has your marketing team managed to come up with the idea that less stuff for more money is going to help you? How have your designers managed to come up with reskinning content and calling it new being a good thing? And how on earth has nobody at bungie stood up and said that Luke smith needs to step down as lead? Fans of Destiny are some of the most passionate I’ve ever seen, we want Destiny to hit the level of potential it should have had from the very start. We don’t hate your game. We hate what you’re turning it into. And we hate not knowing why you think constant bad decisions are a good thing It’s just sad....

I love Bungies replys of "making content is hard" Isn't that your f*$&@#g job? I don't hear construction companies building houses with paper cus is faster, cheaper, and easier.

I’m not going to get Shadowkeep if you guys are going to take things I paid for out

So here's my prediction, like Halo when Bungie was Dev this is going to fall on its face. Bungie has been hemorrhaging players until the last DLC, now Shadowkeep isn't selling well on preorder many are waiting to see, with every Like Smith info spill it looks less fun and more expensive for those who stayed. The real dems were fired from destiny and its creative genius is being slowly killed by its current leadership team and greed.

Neck beard: Go play fortnite if you don’t like destiny Bungie: your feedback is heard, we will turn this game into fortnite

Make a game that just kills and you don't have to depend on Eververse (microtransactions) - remember those days?

I'll form an opinion once I play the product. Unlike most people, I have a mind of my own and don't give a flying f**k what streamers or other gamers think. However, it's pretty tough to believe things are going to improve while suffering through the latest attempt at a pinnacle quest. The medal requirement for Hush was a brilliant idea to make sure people actually try in Gambit, but whomever calculated the number of medals required is a dick. Lol 20% less medals next time... mmmmk? Also, it's pretty obvious there isn't much content coming in Y3. Finally, you can't convince me the Titan meta wasn't intentional. You nerfed Wraith resilience during super, but have done nothing about Titan super resilience. Bottom tree striker not only gets full health recovery every kill during a super, it gets super energy back... no exotic needed. You buffed that at the same time you nerfed everything similar for the other classes. So we are just supposed to believe you're THAT stupid? I think it must be nice to know exactly what the meta is going to be so you can farm in pvp and puff up your numbers to make yourself look like a champ.

I'm guessing the majority of negative feedback in this thread is from those players who've already forked over their money for the full Shadowkeep package already - in spite of all the reskinned disappointment in the past - only to find out they could have tried it out for free. Never. Ever. Preorder. After the abortion that was Curse of Osiris killed off my clan I held off on Forsaken until the weekend after release. Good reviews, good feedback... no regrets. I'll be doing the same with Shadowkeep. Or not. But Season Pass? Fuhgedaboudit. I'll buy each season as it comes. Or not. From what I've seen so far Shadowkeep is a reboot of Destiny 1 for the benefit of the PC players so we're all on the same page come Destiny 3. As a console player it's a choice whether or not I want to repeat that journey in September... or just wait until it's half-price in 6 months.

You are doing your absolute best job possible of putting me off shadowkeep and what's to come. It's one thing after another right now and with borderlands 3 dropping right before shadowkeep. I'm not excited for destiny right now.

This is what I don't understand with these game developers: They're constantly pontificating about how they need to cram microtransactions down our collective throats in order to make a profit, yet they always go down the route that is the least sustainable. Surely you would have realised by now that the whole freemium model isn't working, right? Of course not, because instead of going back to the drawing board, you're making the whole of year 1 and parts of Forsaken free. So what are you going to do if all these new players refuse to buy any of the micros? Are you going to try and nickel and dime us even [i]more [/i] than you already have? Guess what, Bungie. This game might not be cheap to run, but it sure as hell isn't cheap to play, either. So stop pulling the same crap that Respawn tried with Apex Legends, and reevaluate the situation. Hell, even if you have to charge double for any future releases, i'd sooner take that and have everything available to me at no extra cost.

There are so many people overreacting and getting too subjective with their feedback. Offer some meaningful feedback with ideas on how you would have done it better. Deconstructive feedback gets us nowhere.

I love this game, I honestly do. Been playing since D1 year1 and despite the flaws I have always loved this game unconditionally and have played no other series since. My only complaint, which D2 has been doing a lot of, is constantly changing the formula. D1 stuck with a formula and ran with it, improving it as time went on and it made the game solid in the end. D2 ever since launch has had what you would call an identity crisis. The game (developers) can't decide which formula the game should be and go with that formula and instead change it every season. This has happened non stop since it's release and even for a veteran this is getting all very tiring. What is destiny anymore? A space opera? A gacha machine? A fortnight hybrid? Developers claim to listen to feedback but all that seems to be going on is constant changing of a formula. We had a good one THAT WORKED and people genuinely ENJOYED in D1 but this whole series has felt like nothing but a beta since it's debut. Please bungie, get things together and stop changing everything. It's getting so confusing nowadays. I just want to unwind with friends and shoot things instead of having to pour my whole life into a game for a fortnight wannabe system. Will D3 be the same all the way through out? Devs testing the waters still even when the game is on its last installment? Please get things sorted out for the better instead of whatever D2 has been so far.

[i]"Bungie believes that removing activities each season is the only way to make the game feel like it’s evolving. “We believe that Destiny will grow even better when the world state can change, and that the best Destiny stories are the ones where ‘you had to be there when…"[/i] ~ Luke Smith Does this mean [b]A1:[/b] These Seasons are going to be withdrawn from sale within weeks of going 'live' - giving those that purchase it, plenty of time to finish it? (because clearly Bungie can't be planning on selling something up to the [i]very last day[/i] of 'said season', knowing that the content is to be withdrawn?) - Can you Bungie? Surely you wouldn't rip off your customer base with something so sly as 'selling content that's no longer playable' [b]A2:[/b] Will ALL 'rewards' (from the 'free' & 'premium' pathways be rewarded to those who've paid for 'premium path' ?....Or will it carry on the tradition of RNG screwing me (and many other players) over, yet again by actually giving nothing worthwhile? (5months, still never seen a Spare Rations!) [b]A3:[/b] Will ALL progress be Account based? (I'm certainly not doing the debacle that was character based Forge grind again!) [b]A4:[/b] Will part of some daft puzzle require that I have to stand on a🌛 symbol & shoot a ❤️ with a 🏹 with my 🙈, whilst hopping on 1 foot wearing a 🐰 costume - revealing a hieroglyphic alphabet puzzle that eventually spells out '[i]Throw money at the screen[/i] ? & [b]B1:[/b] What happens to the Loot/quests etc after the season ...will they be fully documented - with a checklist that a player can see? [woo, 'step 2, complete 65476 public events', yay!], to obtain 100%, plus no broken steps which need patching later [b]B2:[/b] Will this gear be obtainable through other means? ....What if I'm 99% through a quest & have to take the final week of the 'season' off (y'know because [b]real life![/b])....will it be possible to complete it afterwards? ....Or is Bungie planning on making Destiny even more of a full time grind/D2FOMO? [b]Let's have some Truth & Clarity Bungie! [/b] (These 'live' seasons sound bloomin' worse than Annual Pass, and that was Ass in comparison to the D1/Vanilla D2 DLC system)

Looter shooters, even MMORPG looter shooters need to be very rewarding. And, not stupid ornaments, shaders, emblems, and ghost shells. Like real NEW weapons and armor and the ability to farm for particular guns. Go play Borderlands 2 and wait until your first Boss fight and a Lootsplosion happens!! That's what I'm talking about!! Guns are powerful and fun. They don't get nerfed every other month because the developers are annoyed that the players have found a way to beat bosses quickly and easily and not the way the encounter was INTENDED to be played. I'm about to cancel my pre-order with the latest rumors.

dmg04 You make some valid points and i agree that eververse must be removed from this game but, Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather, he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank just outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold.

Lets be brutally honest.... Year 3 dlc should not exist. The main reason for content removing from season to season is to save on gb size. The larger this game gets the more problems we will see. People complaining about errors, game crashing and load times will only grow more frustrated. This will not improve and begging them to fix it will be a waste of time. My advise to gamer is to be prepared to deal with these issues or stay away. My advise to Bungie is to learn when to restart. You created a Great game but may destroy it and your community. If you really want to remove something to save space consider getting rid of the farm. Its worthless. Remove regular gambit and reckoning. Have gambit prime armor drop from gambit prime. Remove gambit armor. Edit: Content removal should NEVER be an option

I have not played in over a year. I dropped in on the forum to see if anything had drastically changed. NOPE. I reviewed what Bungie is offering to see if they had figured out why they shed 90% of the original player base. NOPE. Am I buying in to another shady cash-grab by Bungie for this 'skinner-box' franchise? NOPE. Same script, same actors, same tired game.

✅ selected answer. Thank you to all who put in the work to get the mountaintop before the great quest nerf. I respect all of you that did this. Now to all the players blowing up quickplay with gl spam to get your handout, enjoyyyy. You all are special guardians, bungie knows this, they made it obtainable for you.

4 days and counting...

Just wondering about the new artifact giving extra power levels, how will this effect Iron banner? Will we have virtually invincible guardians running around at hundreds or thousands of levels above the max light level? Hopefully this isn’t the case but it is a concern.

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