I like it because I'm good, but I wouldn't if I wasn't decent. It wouldn't be fun and I know how it feels to get destroyed. I'm sorry man

I like crucible right now (at least qp), but looking at it objectively, I think Crucible is in a decent spot, but with some still much needed changes. Map design is arguably the biggest change that D2 PvP needs. The fact that an entire weapon archetype (Scout Rifles) is in a great position stat-wise, but is only being used on two maps in the entire game is tragic. More larger maps can easily turn this problem around, as well as fix other problems such as the inherent weakness of Golden Gun in D2. As it stands, GG suffers compared to other supers due to the speed at which other roaming supers can close the distance between players in the close-mid range maps we have. Stacked on top of this is the lack of added armor one has in GG super, adding to the delicate nature of the class. Now this is not me advocating for GG to have more armor, since D1 proved that Gunslingers don’t need it, but it does need another sort of buff to keep up the pace. Speaking of supers, why doesn’t Shadowshot activate immediately. We had the same issue with it in D1, Bungie changed it, and everyone loved it. Similarly, it seems unreasonable that the class tree with one big arrow can’t kill someone in their super. Here’s another problem with supers: armor. Now for GG and, imo, Nova Warp, the extra armor, or lack there of, is not a problem. But as it stands, all other supers have armor equivalent to D1 Sunbreaker upon its release into the game, which is pretty ridiculous. Moving on, I want to mix in some positives. Weapon balance is in a really good state in terms of actual weapon design(at least on console;can’t speak for PC). Sure, LoW still needs a rework, Pulse Rifles could use a little range change, and Rockets should just go from 1 to 2 in the magazine, except Wardcliff Coil. But besides that, it’s really good. Some may argue that Hand Cannons need less flinch and no bloom, but I think it’s perfectly fine because it allows Auto Rifles to consistently be a challenge to them. Hand Cannons are inherently better than Auto Rifles, as the occupy the same ranges, but with both players hitting all headshots, HC wins against AR everytime, and for that matter, most other weapon archetypes. That being said, the TTK difference is very small, with flinch affecting all players, blooms evens the odds a little bit. It sounds like it would make more sense to buff AR damage and remove bloom, but then ARs could easily be overwhelmingly the best archetype in the game, as seen with vanilla D1. Map design is the key issue in weapon balance. I have more thoughts, but I also have a job to get ready. So this is what I got for now.

Solo match made to fabled this season and had never gotten a pinnacle weapon (or tried before now). Felt pretty good, entered team chat every match and people talked I’d say just over 1/2 of the time. Wish a would have focused the MT grenade launcher doubles and trajectory medals more because I’m pretty much sticking to quick play to finish it up at a much slower pace. Don’t want to be “that guy” match making at 2300 pts with 3 nade launchers equipped. I’m pretty happy with where match making is right now and stoked fellow blue berries hit right on the dpad. But F bottom tree striker lol.

Yes.

Bungie have made it very clear they are only catering to the elite in pvp nowadays, if you’re an average player that wants to have fun, then the crucible is no place for you I’m afraid. Every design decision made in the last 2 years reinforces this, it’s one of the main reasons I (and about 90%) of the player base have walked away from destiny. The strange thing is that bungie say they want us to return, but then make both pve and pvp more elitist just to keep the streamers and youtubers happy. Only time will tell if things will improve, there’s many of that would love to return if they remember how to make the game fun for all again.

First off, people got the pinnacle weapons seasons ago. At the start of each season, glory resets to 0. With that in mind, it’s perfectly possible for you to run into people with nf and recluse and lunas howl on your way up the glory ladder as they could very well be restarting their journey after season reset. Matchmaking isn’t perfect but don’t make out that you’re getting paired with people who are on 5500 glory points. You aren’t.

I ran into this issue yesterday I just started my competitive journey on PC and Reached 900 glory fairly easily and then a Full team of recluses ques up and sweats big time In my head I’m thinking Weird...gotta be 2100 to get that gun and I’m no where close to 2100 So basically the cues have nothing to do with your glory Legends are still pub stomping fngs

git gud

I really enjoy myself in the quickplay list. Yeah, sometimes people are better than you, but you have to simply adapt to their playstyle. I have my own playstyle and mostly use off-meta weapons. Just play the game and youll get better eventually.

The thing that pisses me off is when gamebreaking weapons like Lord of Wolves exist and Bungie takes weeks to patch them. That gun is literally like a cheatcode that deletes anything from the game. Requires no skill in aiming, can kill 2 people in 1 burst, kills instantly, deletes supers, has the range of a -blam!-ing handcannon. It should have been patched day 1. This isn't the first time a gun has been broken and it definitely won't be the last. I've barely played because it's just teams full of shitlords exploiting it. It's about as enjoyable as -blam!-ing a cactus. Can't wait for it to be patched.

I feel you, I think the biggest issue is balance... Respawns are bad, yes Matchmaking could be way better, yes But I feel a lot of this could be remedied with a proper balance of weapons, gear, and abilities. Sad but true, with any gear entailing a "perk system", someone will consistently have an advantage, theres no way to perfectly balance a system like destiny's without removing the system they have in place. I'm an awful pvp goer (avg 0.74 k/d), but I dont see THAT much of a drastic overhaul in pvp, to where its perfectly balanced. Armor 2.0 will certainly make things more interesting, as far as the perk system goes, but I want to see more before I fully commit to becoming a daily pvp player.

That’s how I never got the recluse it’s because I always get put into a team with trash players and the opponents always use the jotunn, lord of wolves and erentil and not forgotten bungie should make rule where only people who have level 50 and have power level of 700 can join. all though there’s no level advantages enabled.

You improve by watching clips of yourself play.....I yelled at myself a few times doing this. Another thing is you have to quickly read your opponents. Are they rushers, campers, team shooting #$$_###, hardscopers, meta users. Adjust to those factors. And some times people are just better than you. Other times your teammates are just trash or it's one of your off days.

i would normally say play quickplay but right now its a tryhard mess, to be honest u are better off in competitive, i enjoy it playing better than quickplay, and try a loadout that suits u, ive seen so many people with the same guns like following a trend

Git gud

I have a love/hate relationship with PvP in D2. Too many times, it is unplayable for me. Lag, horrible spawn points, inconsistent loot, putting me in half finished matches and facing expert players make it a poor experience in Quickplay. It's impossible to improve in these conditions. I can't get better. However, the flip side of that is it can be really fun. With the Revoker quest, there's a lot of sniping going on. I'm loving this in the Crucible. There is a lot of satisfaction being able to pull of a headshot on the PS4. If the lag is less, I can do okay even against better competition. The Iron Banner also makes PvP much better, in my case. I notice less lag and more competition that is closer to my skill level.

first off weekends are way worse than weekdays. dont play late at night. if you are super bad hang behind your team with a pulse rifle,scout, or sniper till you get a good feel for it. after awhile you will get better braver and be fine.

Destiny PvP had a lot of issues but still managed to be fun. D2 PvP is just a dumpster fire