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3/6/2019 5:03:04 AM
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No... You've just gotten used to D2 being so much "easy mode". Now, when Bungie throws stuff at you that takes a real measure of skill to do well at, you don't know what to do. It's not Crucible where you can equip shotguns and handcannons and go around 1-3 shotting everyone. It's not Strikes or Raids where you can rock insanely over powered weapons and/or supers that one-shot bosses. Gambit Prime is a mode where you have to think and cooperate as a team. There are enemies in there that take more than a few bullets to kill. The invasion mechanic means that you have to watch your back more often. The possibility of draining motes means you have to stay on top of wiping blockers. The boss fight mechanics mean that you have to coordinate your highest DPS to take advantage of DPS phases. Far too many of you have become lazy, spoiled brats because the game was made too friendly to "casuals" (actually hate that term because there are people who are casual who are good at the game). So, when Bungie hands you a real challenge (hate to see how you handle Gambit Prime a month from now!), you literally don't know what to do. I can say with absolute certainty that the majority of changes we got, today, were all changes asked for by the players... the changes happen and you still bitch about it. I agree with another poster who said... a lot of you on these forums probably dont even play the game. So, how would you know what's good or isn't?
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  • Really? Now the good invader makes the match. Easy as hell. Even easier, then simple Gambit. And good luck with solo this shit and found yourself in full reaper team against ready stuck.=)

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  • Majority of the invaders I encounter do not (to me) qualify as being "good". All most people do is strap on their favorite heavy weapon. And they are easily countered if you carry a decent sniper or other long range weapon.

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  • I mean I didn't ask for these changes and I'm going to say that I don't enjoy it.

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  • You may not have asked for those changes, but there are many who did ask for the changes we got. And, if you listen to the interview Fireteamchat did with Bungie, there are quite a few changes they made based on how the players were actually doing things. They data mine everything. They watch quite a number of streams/broadcasts (not just the big names). Gambit, right now, is a huge deal for them. And, they want to make that part of the game such that it is fun and engaging. Maybe not to you... but there are a lot of people who do enjoy it. I enjoy it much more than Crucible.

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  • 작성자: Noir Renard 3/6/2019 8:10:44 AM
    I doubt people were like hay whisper having 20 shots. That's OP nerf that shit :D

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  • I said "majority of changes". Please learn to read and not put words in my mouth.

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  • [quote]No... You've just gotten used to D2 being so much "easy mode". Now, when Bungie throws stuff at you that takes a real measure of skill to do well at, you don't know what to do. It's not Crucible where you can equip shotguns and handcannons and go around 1-3 shotting everyone. It's not Strikes or Raids where you can rock insanely over powered weapons and/or supers that one-shot bosses. Gambit Prime is a mode where you have to think and cooperate as a team. There are enemies in there that take more than a few bullets to kill. The invasion mechanic means that you have to watch your back more often. The possibility of draining motes means you have to stay on top of wiping blockers. The boss fight mechanics mean that you have to coordinate your highest DPS to take advantage of DPS phases. Far too many of you have become lazy, spoiled brats because the game was made too friendly to "casuals" (actually hate that term because there are people who are casual who are good at the game). So, when Bungie hands you a real challenge (hate to see how you handle Gambit Prime a month from now!), you literally don't know what to do. I can say with absolute certainty that the majority of changes we got, today, were all changes asked for by the players... the changes happen and you still bitch about it. I agree with another poster who said... a lot of you on these forums probably dont even play the game. So, how would you know what's good or isn't?[/quote] Sorry, but Gambit Prime does not require skill at all! Yes some will like it, some won’t like it - personally, I find it utterly boring and repetitive!

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  • It takes skill. You're just choosing to overlook that.

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  • [quote]It takes skill. You're just choosing to overlook that.[/quote] I’m sorry, I fully disagree wi this but it is early days so perhaps as it goes on, it may take skill? But I played several matches last night, and there was no skill from either side - go in kill adds, bank motes, invade, kill adds bank motes, invade, kill adds, bank motes, summon Primevil, kill Envoys, invade, damage primevil, kill Envoys, invade, damage Primevil etc.... Very little skill is needed. But as I said, it is early days and once people hae their armour and found their role - perhaps I will see some skill but truthfully, I doubt it. This game, certainly PvE side requires very little skill to play.

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  • Agreed 100%. Most people on these forums act like it’s the end of the world when something doesn’t go their way smh

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  • Haven't played yet and agree with some of what you said, but making a quest require 500 kills doing cartwheels is really just time consuming. Some of us "casuals" have few hours a week to enjoy gaming and same quest would be fun if it required only 100 cartwheel kills. Destiny was never meant to be Dark Souls, never will be. At the moment, casual players are left out of the loop and that's a big chunk of the audience. Have super sweaty activities but balance that with other ones accessible for less dedicated players. Just so we can level up too, at some point.

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  • You have 3+ months to work on all of it. There's absolutely no rush.

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  • 작성자: wickedwahine808 3/6/2019 8:08:11 AM
    I know, that's what I do, take my time which is pretty scarce when it comes to gaming time these days. Sometimes I finish, and other times I don't. The SR3 though, 1000 precision kills, lol, 100 strikes... Doubt I'll ever do that, I like variety and having fun, can't imagine focusing only on one thing for months. Edit for terrible spelling

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  • Eh, you can rotate stuff. Idk. There's ways of making it work. I'm a huge fan since Day 1 but since my friends have left I still consider myself hardcore but I'm more of a casual now though I do play around 5 times a week. Idk it is a juggle, but it can be done bud.

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  • true

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