I've been grinding out Mountaintop for the past week and I have to say that this weapon type is laughably weak. Special ammo grenade launchers suffer from massive consistency issues with their damage which allow a direct hit to range from 70 damage to a one hit kill. They also suffer from a chronic lack of ammo. The standard 2 rounds might be acceptable if their damage was more consistent, but they are far too inconsistent. The heavy variants are, on the whole, in a pretty good spot. However, they also have some damage inconsistency in a similar vein to the special GLs. While they don't have problems with direct hits they do have a problems with indirect hits as it is not uncommon for a guardian to just eat a blast that detonated right at their feet, and it is a little ridiculous for a heavy weapon to do only 80-110 damage on what is essentially a direct hit, not to mention you can rather easily evade the shots by jumping. A few fixes that I would like to see would be as follows - A small blanket increase to both damage and blast radius across all grenade launchers to help with more consistent damage output - An Increase in the kill radius of the blast zone, if I detonate a grenade at your feet or directly in front of your face you should probably be dead. - If a damage buff is too extreme for the special ammo GLs increase starting ammo from 2 to 3 or 4 to at least give them some added utility. There are a few other minor changes, but I feel these are the most important. *Fighting Lion is excluded from these changes as it is the one GL i feel is fairly well balanced* Overall, I really do like grenade launchers, but they lack any positive traits that can't be found on other weapons. Special ammo variants are outshined by everything in their slot in both lethality and functionality, and the heavy options are for the most part outclassed by rocket launchers and LMGs. I'm not really asking for these weapons to be op, but as someone who generally enjoys using them, it would be nice for Bungie to show some love to these relatively neglected weapons. -Some addendums because I was tired and slightly out of it at the time of writing this post. -For some clarity, I do play on console so my judgements are based solely on that experience, Like hand cannons they could be far more consistent on PC, so feel free to let me know if this is the case. - A few other minor changes i would suggest +Special ammo GLs should not have self damage, no other special weapon type does, I think this is mostly a holdover from when they were heavy weapons, but seeing as they aren't anymore they shouldn't have it any longer. If Jotun doesn't have it than neither should the special GLs. (This would also include Fighting Lion). +Currently Heavy GL shots can be destroyed midair, we all saw it in the last word trailer and I have had it cost me several fights which I should have won. In all truth this is an extremely unlikely happenstance, but one that shouldn't really have to exist, especially when GLs are the only projectile weapons to have this quirk. Of course I could be wrong and other fired projectiles like Rocket Launcher shots can also be destroyed; however, as it stands, it is an unnecessary oddity that can randomly cause a well chosen engagement to completely turn around at the behest of the opponent's luck.