[quote]No I don’t think and didn’t say that. Strawman city when you talk to haunter.[/quote]Think I've seen you post this to 3 different people now, let me tell you this right here? It's a meaningless response [quote]I think having less than 10% of your install base playing the game you designed to be a hobby people would want to play daily is a failure and it’s a bad sign for the current health of the game which has ramifications on the future of the game. Bungie may have said they popped Champaign at the split with Activision but Activision provided them with a lot of infrastructure and support. I know the numbers were the worst during D2Y1 but it should be eye opening to people how close we are to those numbers again. We are closer to CoO numbers than Forsaken numbers.[/quote]Really? Because I think those player numbers are pretty standard for games, right now especially since were between content drops things are as bad as they always are during the lull, ttk had this same thing. New content will draw some back, significant content like forsaken will draw back hundreds of thousands - however d2 will never be as big as it should and could have been due to Y1