[quote]i can no longer enjoy a gaming session in the crucible, always getting killed by shotguns.[/quote] Fun fact: no one enjoys dying in crucible to [b]any[/b] weapon. And if you consistantpy die to a curtain weapon, try learning of ways to counter it. [quote]the crucible is supposed to be fun, my best friends who used to play destiny have left for this reason to move onto more balanced games such as fortnite and apex .[/quote] "Fun" is subjective, some people, believe it or not, enjoy playing competeively, "try-hard"-ing and getting good at a game. This game is not auppose to be like fornite or Apex, and the balancing for those games arent perfect either, infact i can almost garentee looking at the forums for either game will see a post similar to this one. [quote]can we please have a game mode without shotguns and luna's howl as it is getting very boring and very annoying , or just keep them in competitive[/quote] Why punish players who went through the effort of earning good, competitive weapons by then penning them into only a select few game modes because players like you dont like them. [quote]i have now smashed a controller out of sheer rage because of this, that means i can no longer play destiny or at least the crucible as it is causing too much stress instead of enjoyment[/quote] Honestly, this sounds like you have an issue with yojr temperment and thats not an issue with the game. [quote]P.S all those who use these weapons please note that you are ruining the game for everyone else , keep your shotgun sliding for competitive[/quote] So because [b]everyone else[/b] doesnt play the way [b]you[/b] want them to, they are the problem? Wouldnt it make more sense for you to change rather then expecting everyone else to? By your logic, i dislike players who feel the entire games community should bend to their will, therefore, [b]you[/b] are the problem. See the issue with making blanket statements like that?

If everyone used my fusion rifles you would say the same thing. If everyone used snipers you would say the same thing. Shotguns are easy to counter. Try a fusion with back up plan. They will probably get a range nerf and make sidearms and smgs viable anyways but they are not difficult to counter.

I think the biggest problem is not the shotguns anymore , specially in the competitive , there is a full stack of hackers who are ruining the game … when you win tre rounds easy and at the fourth round , it comes something and they beat you to 0 kills . that's impossible . And the way they made grey green and blue weapons more powerfull , there is no reason to play destiny anymore and specially no reason to get exotics in it … I was playing around 500 hours in pve and 100 in pvp I have all exotics , and there comes a guy with a lvl 20 and 20 power and a F**ing green hand canon and one shoots me . What is enjoyable in this ??? they have broken tha game with the new update...