Not all auto rifles, the breakneck is great.

When giving weapons much faster kill times in the new sandbox, the devs came up with the solution of doing it by raising critical damage. This meant people could get the D1 kill times, but they'd have to land precision shots to do it. Auto Rifles aren't precision weapons. You'll surely have noticed the new pinnacle AR from Gambit is described as a "precision Auto Rifle". That's the work-around to the problem currently. I'm not sure why body damage couldn't just be increased across the board on them, but obviously they have reasons to not want to do that (my guess is a fear of making them too close to precision weapons in kill times because we've seen how that played in year one. People tend to use what kills fastest [i][b]and easiest[/b][/i]. ARs definitely top ease of use and year one Crucible showed this all year long. Something else, I also believe this is why Scouts are so lackluster as well. Scouts body damage is already trash versus hand cannons and about even on precision damage. That's been a problem since D2's launch and it's a big reason Nameless Midnight was actually so much better than any others because the explosive rounds made up for the missing body damage. Now however, there's almost no benefits to using a Scout over a good ranged Hand Cannon because again, the HCs do just as much precision damage and actually do more body damage at scout range lol. Also, and this is the kicker for PvP, it's easier to land precision shots the closer you are and it's easier to actually ADS a hand cannon than a scoped scout rifle. If you miss a precision shot with a hand cannon, you're still okay. Miss with a scout and you're completely hosed. It takes [b][i]6 body shots and 2 seconds[/i][/b] to kill with a [b][i]High Impact[/i][/b] scout. That's insane. It's by far the slowest non-critical TTK in the game and to put it in even more perspective as to why High Impact scouts are so awful overall, even the other scouts kill faster on all body shots. 180 RoF are the same 6 body shots at 1.67 seconds. Auto Rifles are 1.33 seconds on body damage. That is much better than scouts, but when you take into account they're spray-and-pray weapons that by nature aren't precision weapons, that doesn't really compete in Crucible versus hand cannons that are killing in .67-.80 seconds. Yes hand cannons have slower body shot TTKs at 1.33-1.73 seconds, but they're precision weapons and the easiest to land those precision shots in the game, particularly when weapons like Trust have basically zero recoil. Hope this helps and hopefully Bungie find a solution.

Because around the time Forsaken was released Bungo released a sandbox patch that nerfed body damage and buffed precision damage on all Auto's making them less the useful across the board. Bam. One sentence and you have all the information you need. Unlike the novel from Sols.

You want to know why auto rifles are trash? ...... then go and have a look at the stats and you will see why. Ever since the start of Destiny 2 auto rifles have been garbage even my old favourite suros regime is a former shadow of its self. It’s like bungie has forgotten how to make good auto rifles anymore

They aren't trash; scout rifles are What autos needs is a damage buff. not one to killf aster, but to make them better at reaching optimal TTK

You have to land all headshot otherwise it’ll take like a full mag to kill an afk

Take one into Gambit and see how bad they are, other than Cerberus +1, they are really bad, Sub machine guns are better if that tells you anything.

They're trash because of their body damage nerf when Forsaken came out.

I don't know, I just had a hazard drop with Extended barrel High caliber Triple tap Rampage It melts.

Really? My Breakneck is pretty godly.

We were spoiled with Counterbalance + Braced Frame auto rifles in D1. The transition to D2 recoil has not been a cake walk.

Get that Breakneck. Otherwise, I agree. I'm hoping this may be a prelude of things to come, but if not, this is the go to auto rifle.