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작성자: AntonioInJail69
11/29/2018 8:49:16 PM
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What's With The All Nerfs Lately? (Ursas, EP Shotty, and Chromatic Fire)
In the latest update, which took place on Tuesday, various exotics and legendaries were nerfed. The items that were nerfed and listed in the patch notes were the EP Shotty and the Ursa Furiosas. There may have been others as well, but I am not completely sure. One thing was nerfed for sure, that was not listed in the patch notes. This was the warlock exotic chest piece, Chromatic Fire. Before the update when you got a precision kill there would be two elemental explosions. After the update, after getting a precision kill, there is only one elemental explosion. So, basically, Bungie nerfed the damage by half. Maybe it was bugged, but Bungie should have said that they had nerfed it.
This nerf to Chromatic fire was not deserved. It was very fun before the update, but now it is almost useless.
Also, regarding the nerf to Ursa Furiosas, why were these nerfed, but the hunter chest piece Gwinsin Vest and the gauntlets Shards of Galanor were not? I'm completely against nerfs, but with the nerf to one of the best titan exotics, what's up? This exotic was fun and only good if the enemy team would shoot your big glowy shield. It was great in PvP, possibly a little too great, but after the update is very weak now. The most amount of super I've gotten back while blocking heavy fire from the whole entire enemy team for a good 10 seconds, was around 33%. Before the update, two or so shotgun blasts would give you the whole thing back. I could understand a small nerf, but they nerfed these things into the ground. Meanwhile, you can have a potentially infinite super with Gwinsin vest, just by using the heavy attack. With the buff/fix to spectral blades, now the Gwinsin vest is better than pre-nerf Ursas.
Does anyone else think the Ursas need a buff? They don't need to be as good as they were before, but they should at least be useful. Titans are literally the least played class and the only thing we had going for us were the amazing exotics.
I'm not calling for a nerf to Gwinsin, Shards, or the Skull of Dire Ahamkara, but nerfing the Ursas, and only the Ursas makes no sense.
Anyways, I am writing this while half asleep, so if there are a bunch of grammatical mistakes, that is why.
Please share your thoughts below.
Edit: I saw a reply from Bungie earlier and apparently fixed a bug with the two explosions from Chromatic Fire and forgot to add in increased damage to the remaining single explosion. So, after the next update it will be restored to it's former glory!
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2 답변What did they do to CF? I just got it recently and tried it and it's honestly trash. I'll probably just delete it. Not sure why or when I would ever use it over Phoenix, Geomag or Lunafaction.
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8 답변작성자: alittlesyco 11/29/2018 10:21:06 PMI HAVE POSTED THIS BEFORE BUT HERE WE GO AGAIN. PVP players are killing PVE. here is what i hear on this forum constantly. NERF... telesto NERF ace of spades NERF shoulder charge NERF one eyed mask NERF lunas NERF not forgotten NERF blade barrage NERF nova warp NERF sleeper NERF queens breaker NERF shot guns NERF bygones NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF. When bungie listened to all the crucibabies we got vanilla D2 which sucked . Just suck it up and get use to dying in crucible a lot or quit playing . This isnt call of duty you get nothing for a kill streak so quit crying.
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17 답변작성자: Blimgauss 11/29/2018 11:52:24 PMJust FYI, Cozmo responded on another post about Chromatic Fire. He said the double explosions was a bug that caused issues, so it was removed (and they forgot to put it in the patch notes), BUT they are rolling out a fix with next week's update to boost the damage on the single explosion, to compensate for the removal of the secondary explosion. I'll see if I can find his original post. EDIT: Here's his response in this post. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/249876951?sort=0&page=0 EDIT 2: Also, Gwisin Vest is getting adjusted with next week's update, so I'm guessing they're going to nerf it a bit. It should be nerfed a little, and that's coming from someone who has it. Also fully agree that Shards should be nerfed. Anything that can return nearly your entire super is OP in PvP.
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I don't have Ursas seeing as how I play mostly Warlock, and I didn't use Chromatic Fire very much, but from what I could tell both were just fine. They could have made a minor nerf to Ursas if you actually got your whole super back from just a few shotgun shots, but if an entire team is stupid enough to constantly shoot your Banner Sheild you should be rewarded for it. Supposedly Chromatic Fire could get some insane collateral kills, which seems fair... it's supposed to cause AoE damage to multiple people. As for the Hunter exotics you mentioned, I think Shards are in a good spot, maybe up requirement for the full recharge benefit to four kills rather than three in PvP. Gwisin Vest however is straight broken right now; I'd be hard pressed to believe Bungie thinks otherwise as well. Just change it so you get kills and heavy attack for more super energy... but only once, then rinse repeat. Spamming heavy attack to feed you super bar is very clearly not how that chestpiece should function.
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2 답변There's a difference between nerfing and balancing. Ursa's were frustrating to play against because players were punished for having teammates who didn't understand the mechanics, so they balanced them so that it would still reward the user but wouldn't punish opponents who understood their function as much for having bad teammates. As another reply pointed out Chromatic Fire was causing issues and is getting buffed in the next patch. EP Shotty needed it's reduction in potential as it was pretty much the only viable option for PvE activities, and as Bungie has stated in the past, they want you to feel more powerful as more things are released, and EP Shotty reduced that effect, now there are other viable options (Luna and Not Forgotten are pretty viable replacements if your shot is even slightly decent). As for Gwisin: it's a bug and is being patched, I assume it will be similar to the Bladedancer perk Encore from D1. Shards and Skull require kills to proc their super return (not saying the effects shouldn't be retuned, as they probably should), whereas Ursa only needed one dumb person to lay into the shield for a second or so. Also, One-Eyed Mask needs a heavy nerf, not normally one to advocate for them but if you remove the tracking and insta-heal (not the overshield) it should be balanced. Players shouldn't be punished for getting into an engagement in a FPS game, if you don't remove the tracking at least reduce the duration/distance, it's ridiculous.
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2 답변Ursas needs a buff... I couldnt disagree more. I see titans running around with their supers up as much as 50% of a match, even post-nerf it is still obnoxiously overpowered..
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2 답변This is slowly but surely making me not want to come back to D2. Every nerf pushes me away from the game; I want to feel powerful, not watered down for the sake of a bunch of fickle whiners.
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2 답변At least this made everyone else forget that two warlocks with well and phoenix could drop 17 Wells in one game collectively.
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6 답변The EP shotty needed to be nerfed so that other weapons in the energy slot could see use without breaking the game. (The game is already creaking under how overpowered raid teams are when all 6 people are using that weapon.) Chromatic Fire isn't getting nerfed. Its having a bug fixed. If you have it equipped and shoot an enemy with a weapon that has Firefly or Dragonfly you get THREE explosions. One from the weapon, and then a DOUBLE explosion matching the element of your subclass. That's not how the perk is supposed to work.
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1 답변idk if this has any ground but, on the crucible emblem that tracks pvp kills, i've killed hunters the most, titans the second most, and warlocks the least. wouldn't that invalidate your claim that titans are the least played class? if not in pve it at least proves they are more used in pvp then warlocks.
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4 답변[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/249903259?sort=0&page=0]Ace of Spades too.[/url]
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3 답변As a frequent user of Chromatic Fire I could see a size reduction in the Dragonfly effect as well. It used be Damn I Might Need Sunglasses lol. Now it's just Cheap 4th of July Bangers.
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16 답변Why would they nerf shards or gwisin vest. They need kills to proc. I am against the ursa nerf though.
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3 답변What?????? They nerfed chromatic fire????? Wtaf! Now there’s no point I using it. I would get some amazing collaterals on grouped up enemies in pvp. 😢
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1 답변You know what Nerf I want? The original Nerf football from the 80's. Those were awesome.
