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작성자: Spawn
11/29/2018 2:23:48 PM
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LH/NF and Crucible. Something has to change.
I don't think the guns need a hard Nerf but something's gotta give. Maps are small so range is fine for those weapons, Destiny has to be one of the EASIEST FPS to hit headshots in so the typical "you gotta hit headshots" thing is bullshit, 180 rpm makes them super spammable and 180 archetypes are super forgiving with the recoil. I'm in the camp of "giving the strongest of players stronger tools is bad for the game" especially without sbmm. I'm an average player and I honestly would love sbmm because having those close games are so exciting and intense lol. There are many fixes for those broken guns and how broken crucible is, I just want something done is all.
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1 답변Maybe the should just add a game mode for shit players. That people with a certian kda cant get into.
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2 답변Don’t worry - it’s all about to change . 180 handcannons will be the last of your worries in a few weeks.
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13 답변작성자: RockNotABoulder 11/30/2018 2:52:12 AMSays there are many ways of fixing the two guns. Provides none of them. You will never improve if you don't play with players that are better than you. Your stats are not average. They are bad. This means that you (yes YOU) are a bad crucible player. Not everyone can win. Not everything is a participation trophy. Player more difficult people. And get better. I'm not trying to be rude. It's just realistic.
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Also, SBMM is not the answer at Least in the sense of matching you with every player of equal skill level. The issue is distributing good players equally on both teams after CBMM finds all the best connections relative to you. Pure SBMM is NOT fun for those of us at the top and is stagnant for those that need improvement. Try to better yourself by taking note of those that are beating you.
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6 답변agreed, i have it and going against someone who doesn’t isn’t even a challenge most of the time, i think they could maybe add more guns similar to it that have fast TTKs but knowing bungo they won’t
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I’m in the same camp that weapons designed specifically for high skill players to be even more deadly is not a good thing. Why would anyone think pushing a bigger gap between skilled and average players has an up side? It doesn’t.
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40 답변You kids crying nerf are the reason vanilla D2 happened. You do realise that if they nerf Luna/NF the top tier players are just going to switch to the next meta weapons and dump all over your face with those? There will always be a meta and you will always lose if you think guns win games.
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1 답변They screwed up when they created a 180 handcannon that can 3-tap without needing Rampage/Kill Clip. Anyone who says otherwise is being willfully ignorant. BUT with that being said, I have noticed alot of users spam fire LH/NF and a good strafe/explosive payload can win you your engagements. Its probably gonna be the users who earned it legitimately who are gonna mop the floor with you.
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I think something that might really help would be a solo que only game mode. Probably would imrpove the overall experience. The worst matches i have are agains teams when im solo qued. And that mainly because people never ever ever ever enter the dam fireteam chat. I get it some people are toxic in the cha blah blah but mute em and get on with call outs. Would completley change the game.
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1 답변Ok so i own lunas howl. In 1 week i got 1100 kills in crucible the gun is alot of fun. Was semi hard to obtain Mostly due to time we started grinding for it like nov 12 to find out that we have 15 days. Its very easy to use(within its range) and i definitely have an advantage against anyone who doesn't. I'm a decent pvp player not the best not the worst. I do feel that Bungie is already way to far down the path of making the best players in the game absolutely unbeatable with the weapons that only they can earn and in turn recover accounts and gatekeep and monetize the comp playlist. The system is impossible for the community to have a fair match. If i play with my comp teammates in quickplay we are going to stomp out any team that does not have 3-4 lunas. Yes everyone has access to the comp playlist. Not everyone has access $200-$500 to pay for a carry or is friends with top 500 players that can carry them like for example Datto.(no offense to Datto) I love the idea of pinnacle weapons but in practice they are going to eventually going to make every non sweaty crucible player quit the crucible and maybe even the game. I don't have a solution i just know we have a problem. Cause currently we armed the MMA champions with spiked gloves to fight toddlers with water pistols. They need to give the avg player a path to obtain weapons that can compete with Not Forgotten(which i swear 90% including all the streamers who are trash just got carried to) and Lunas howl. They don't have to be LH/NF or even have magnificent howl but something that they can use that is equally as good so they have a fighting chance.
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I hate to say it, but it is not the gun, tis the guardian holding it in this case. Luna is the litteral only HC I hate using in PvP....but i did use it to see how good it is....it was definitely not the gun that was the problem. Anyone getting constant kills with it are skilled. Now if it wasn't masterworked or had a different state masterworked...like reloading, and it had kickback like better devil?.....😈😈😈😈👽 Game over I may destroy PvP.
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Ive got the luna but i bet i could spank you with about ten others. The problem isnt the gun its learning how to play around it just like hiu have to do with every other gun. You cant shotgun a sniper and so you either ckose the gap or something like that. Learn how to counter it
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9 답변Easy fix for this problem. Bring back SBMM. Dont know why it was ever removed... Must have been a streamer problem of going against other streamers. Or paid carries vs paid carries.
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3 답변작성자: NegativeCycle 11/30/2018 12:58:21 AMSorry to burst your bubble but your 0.89 K/D doesn't make you "average" it makes you bad. People like you will cry no matter what kills you, it's your nature. You simply lack the skill to compete and don't understand that it's not the "weapons" killing you, it's your bad decision making, poor aim, poor map awareness, poor reflexes....ect. Doesn't matter if I use my Luna's Howl or not, I do just as well without it as I do with it. You people always try to latch onto whatever you THINK the problem is without addressing what the problem REALLY is. Namely YOU. Work on improving what I mentioned above before you start crying about everything else.
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16 답변작성자: Guardian6969 11/29/2018 8:09:45 PMI feel like I always have to teach players a lesson on forums. Destiny 2 does NOT have dedicated servers. It’s a peer-to-peer multiplayer game. The game decides who’s host. If your host is across the globe, good luck getting your shots to register. The problem with SBMM with no dedicated servers is that it will prioritize skill over connection. Ever played a college student from Albania on a 10 mbps WiFi connection? Also, you’ll never improve if you don’t play better players.
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2 답변They nerfed the enjoyment out of the ep shotty for the pve players. Seems only right they should take the fun out of Luna for the PvP players. Just so you know, I'm against nerfs of any kind. Buffs are progressive. We can't progress this game positively if they nerf anything remotely fun!
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10 답변Smugglers word with rangefinder beats a Luna's and shotties at short to mid range. They aren't going to nerf a pinnacle weapon
