What I don’t understand about a gun like Luna’s/NF is all it does is drive a skill wedge even further between great players and average players. It just leads to even more one sided matches. The great players are going to land those three head shots meaning an average player cannot compete with any other general weapon within Luna’s range (it can still 3 tap from a good medium distance). Luna’s can kill you quicker than you can charge a fusion rifle. Why would bungie think making the skill gap even bigger is a good thing? Just so better players can stomp even more? They’ve also done the same with the special ammo economy. They’re called SPECIAL weapons. A good player should not have so much ammo that they can run a special weapon all match long, but that’s what bungie has done with the abundance of special ammo on kills. Instead of being a special weapon used sparingly in special/clutch situations, people are running shotguns all match long. I honestly think you should spawn with a little more special ammo than you do now, but you can’t pick any up during the match, it only refreshes on spawn. This would probably lead to more people running dual primaries adding an SMG or sidearm instead of shotguns or Telesto. Telesto is a great weapon and it gets a lot of hate. The reason being you can run in almost all match long if you get enough kills because special ammo drops like candy. I’d hate to see it nerfed when it Is ammo that is the problem, not the gun. Stop having super high skill weapons like Luna’s that just separate the player base even more and reduce special ammo availability in crucible. There’s literally no where for average players to have a bit of fun in PvP now. Quickplay is infested with Luna’s/Shotguns and comp matchmaking doesn’t work. At Brave level in comp I’ve been teamed against full 4 stacks running Luna’s. These people have been to fabled and beyond, so someone at Brave level should not have to be facing them in comp.

If scrubs can get it why dont you have it then

In hindsight I don't understand why Bungie nerfed Thorn and The Last Word back in the days and then created Luna and NF. They are sending mixed messages.

I h8 the pvp in Destiny right now but I will defend the Luna's Howl bc it didn't break the game. The weapons and armor just need to be tweaked and balanced better. Scout rifle return to its original damage and other things like that. Also, peer 2 peer creates a lot of quality of life issues that make the pvp experience less enjoyable. MM is a joke. There are a number of other things that I could say Bungie could continue to ACTIVELY modify to enhance pvp. The fact is they are extremely slow to respond, the data they are looking at, they use to generate sales, not quality of life for gamers, current MM should have a better skill pool or other measure to combine for a better gaming experience. Tldr; it's not the gun, it's Bungie

What I got from this is that you’re tired of getting pooped on by a gun you aren’t skilled enough to obtain. There were plenty of people who solo’d the grind to Luna and there was plenty of teams on LFG this season looking to fill out their rosters so I don’t really buy the whole I have no one to play with argument. I thought it was long overdue that Bungie rewarded player time with something of substance that actually felt like it was worth the grind. Luna’s Howl & Not Forgotten are these rewards, the pinnacle crucible rewards. Unfortunately not all players will have the skill set or game knowledge to acquire said weapons and that’s the skill gap coming into play. Something that’s been ever dwindling in Destiny for some time. At the end of the day not everybody gets to go home a winner! But, everybody has that chance.. And if you don’t get back up after you’ve fallen and you just quit, then a winner you’ll never be 🤙

I mean honestly, my only gripe is how long all the different parts of the quest to grind are. Anyone can get it if they decide they actually want to go for it, so why make it take for freakin ever (this goes for all the pinnacle weapons) I'm already annoyed at having to get 300 and 500 kills and run like 40 strikes or gambit matches for the new ones... Im sure I'd do that many eventually anyhow, but it's just annoying to know you "have" to do it for a step of the quest.. Like it doesn't increase or decrease the skill needed..it just artificially increases the quest length. Like why not 10 matches >.>?

https://www.bungie.net/en/PGCR/3031034049?character=2305843009260723468 ^ I played that game yesterday against a 5-stack and a solo that were running a mix of Broadsword and Howl. I automatically assumed we might lose the match when I saw what these guys were using, and then I found out fairly quickly that they sucked at using these weapons. Some of these people are some times people that obtained their weapons through a paid carry or account recovery, not everyone using Howl in Crucible is gonna be amazing with it.

Thorn back in the day was WAY more toxic. They said the Pinnacle weapon is designed to be the best weapon in that game mode. And no, not everyone should be able to obtain it. Your post, more than any I have ever read, deserves the cliched and slightly annoying "get good"

They’re not “giving us” these guns, unless they paid for a recovery, which should NOT get them the gun. However, we worked for it, we got it, we deserve to use it.

Seeing your post history you complained about every gun that kills you.... Seriously do every one a favor and delete destiny at this point.