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This is Destiny in it's "BEST EVER" form?

Quickplay Crucible: Fireteams farming blueberries Competitive Crucible: 5000 Glory vs 500 Glory Gambit: 4-stack with Synthoceps, Well of Radiance Nightfall: Too easy to care about, no matchmaking Heroic Strikes: Renamed "Vanguard Strikes" Strikes: Merged with Heroic Strikes for being pointless Trials of the Nine: Removed for being dead Factions: Removed for being pointless Tokens: Pointless as vendors don't reset stock Materials: Pointless as they can be purchased from Spider Xur: Mostly pointless, unless you're new Weapon Telemetries: Pointless to the -blam!-ing max Mods: Underused because of inability to acquire components Masterworks: Underused because of Enhancement Core cost Bounties: Annoying to collect, can't be hoarded Power level: Pointless if you're overleveled Collections: Pointless since you can't retrieve most gear Seals: Locked behind RNG But at least the music/art is nice and gunplay is fun???
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  • Haha, good one.

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  • Miss the fact that in D1 each Faction, Vanguard and even Banshee we’re so relevant. Oh! And weird eyes Eris was somewhat handy. And I miss the Weapon Re-roll slot machine. I have to admit, I had a bit of an addiction. But to have an Arc rocket launcher with OP perks was awesome.

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    • 작성자: X Knok 11/26/2018 8:40:46 AM
      You forgot , exotics that dont show up at all. exotics that most blue weapons can beat. warlocks having no exotics crucible related. short replay value so they can charge you for dlc content that will be even shorter activision monitizing everything if you dont have lunas or not forgotten crucible will be a struggle crucible being a shit fest. reskinning oh you can bust your ass getting the same damn weapons you had in year one ill just stop

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    • I agree with most of the points you made however the amount of really good loot exclusive to certain activities is currently amazing and curated legendaries are like a whole new rarity. The amount to do is pretty damn high. The last few weeks I've been playing raid lairs, the current raid, the Whisper quest on heroic, EP, Gambit; the dungeon, etc. and all were relevant to get me something I wanted. That's far more content than any other game I've played has offered me and I love all those PVE activities more than playing any pvp bs in any game. Play abilities are very fun right now and subclasses finally feel like they had more defined roles. So yes it could use a lot of work but it's still about as good as it's ever been. Right up there with Taken King.

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    • 작성자: Dark Raven 2501 11/26/2018 6:27:55 AM
      Bull Shit ... whoops I only read the title. This game has so many problems it’s not funny anymore with its pinnacle reskined weapons - too much focus on pvp or nightfall or raid or blind well or your escalation dumass and the never ending parade of dickheads in game or at bungie & activison sabotaging the base part of the game to entertain all the so called hard core players and not to mansion all the idiots that go on about the possibility of D3. If bungie what’s to get back in the good books with activison then they need to go back to basics that got D1 going good in the first place instead of bringing all this garbage to the game that causes more problems than solving them

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      • I was ready to argue with you.. but unfortunately you're right.. this IS the best destiny 2 has ever been but a lot of it does seem pointless.. what on earth is the point of having random rolls show up in collections?

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      • Also gambit whilst fun at times will manifest terrible changes for pve players... I hate the melting point synthoceps and that stuff will be addressed. However stuff like this should be alternate fun ways to wreck face in raids and strikes (the way they use to be in D1). Without having to worry about any nerfs etc

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      • 작성자: Tk 11/26/2018 7:33:49 AM
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        Dont forget non stop matchmaking solos vs 4 stacks

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      • Scary, but true.

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      • This is terrifyingly accurate.

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        • 'REEEE There are things wrong with this game rn so it must be worse than previous iterations which NEVER had any issues', please most of the shit you listed has been a problem since d1 or it's just a tiny quality of life thing, take off your rose tinted nostalgia glasses this is the second best the game has been after Y3 AOT for PvE and Y2 for PvP.

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          • I wish that was the way competitive playlist works my dude... at 37 out of 50 wins at legend and couldn't go up today as i kept matching ZKMushroom and his mates.

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          • So jaded...

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          • AoT was the best destiny has ever been. This is the best destiny 2 has ever been. Very big difference there

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            • I can't argue with any of your points but I don't think anyone is saying this is the best Destiny - you probably misunderstood - they more likely said this is the best Destiny 2, because it is. If someone said this is the best Destiny has ever been, you shouldn't ever play with, or watch them again.

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            • Have a "Like". Now you know why so many gamers have moved on.

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            • Isn't this the feedback from the influencer summit? This is what they said we wanted isn't it, and you all went along with it. So enjoy.

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              • The gunplay isn't as good as D1. Neither is the loot. Both of which are the key elements of a loot based FPS.

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                • From the day forsaken launch the hard honeymoon period everyone got hit with was obvious from the start. Unless you like clicking on meaningless boxes for useless points theres really nothing to -blam!-in do in this game.

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                  • Is Trials gone forever? Or are they just fixing it?

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                    • I love the hypocrisy behind this community. Everyone in the forums complain about crucible being slow and light leaving being to slow or fast, Bungie fixes it and we still complain.

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                      • *its

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                      • [i]Quickplay Crucible: Fireteams farming blueberries[/i] - team based game so expect to be owned going solo, Im a soloist have to learn to play tactically and use others as meat shields if survival is that important to you. [i]Competitive Crucible: 5000 Glory vs 500 Glory[/i] - cant really comment I dont do competitive due to being a soloist. [i]Gambit: 4-stack with Synthoceps, Well of Radiance[/i] - Its not that bad If you stay ranged [i]Nightfall: Too easy to care about, no matchmaking[/i] - again yeah team based game but I do agree nightfalls should have OPTIONAL matchmaking [i]Heroic Strikes: Renamed "Vanguard Strikes"[/i] - Whats the issue its just a name [i]Strikes: Merged with Heroic Strikes for being pointless[/i] - outside of milestones and exotic drops yeah kind of, strike loot should be in even the NF awards at a lower drop rate maybe [i]Trials of the Nine: Removed for being dead[/i] - supposed to return who knows when again Im a soloist wont play it even if it returns [i]Factions: Removed for being pointless[/i] - They did factions lazy in D2, faction rallies felt rushed and not enjoyable for me, needs to be permanent and weapons rotated weekly [i]Tokens: Pointless as vendors don't reset stock[/i] - vendors need to stock rotate [i]Materials: Pointless as they can be purchased from Spider[/i] - used for infusion though but yes mostly pointless [i]Xur: Mostly pointless, unless you're new[/i] or after specific perks/ rolls (they change) [i]Weapon Telemetries: Pointless to the -blam!-ing max[/i] - dont drop often enough or award enough rep is the big issue [i]Mods: Underused because of inability to acquire components[/i] good system too small, not enough options (bring back elements for one) and yes component economy too rare [i]Masterworks: Underused because of Enhancement Core cost[/i] - Bounties are an easy source [i]Bounties: Annoying to collect, can't be hoarded[/i] - to be fair though TS ticks off 7-9 easy bounties before leaving so pretty much half the weekly milestone [i]Power level: Pointless if you're overleveled[/i] - agreed, Id like to see perks or abilities unlocked with light level. [i]Collections: Pointless since you can't retrieve most gear[/i] - agreed why cant they have either a set roll from collection or say cost 10 shards for a random rolled piece [i]Seals: Locked behind RNG[/i] - meh not too fussed here its just fluff [i]But at least the music/art is nice and gunplay is fun???[/i] - some of it, alot of the music isnt my taste but Im a metal head, the art well scenery yes but I feel some of the weapon/armor design is very stale and bland when compared to that of D1 but just personal taste here.

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                        • 작성자: Odyss3us SW4G 11/26/2018 4:22:14 AM
                          As far as balance, content diversity, and leveling systems yes this is the best it has ever been. Balance is extremely subjective because we just came from a no special era so idk that could be argued for millennia. Content diversity could be argued as well although I think most would agree that this is the most diverse destiny has ever been. Content relativity on the other hand...no even TTK had more relative content right after Y1. And as far as the leveling system goes (light or power level) yes this is the best it ever has been. They've stretched out the level enough so that players who do the raid reach max much faster but make casuals satisfied because they are not stuck at a cap because the raid, Trials (rip), Iron Banana, or nightfall prevents them from progressing. As for a majority of your points, yes they are issues and need to be fixed/addressed, but every rendition of this franchise has had it's flaws. Vanilla D1 leveling, Dark Below content and value, House of Wolves perk rerolls broke the game for months and some aspects of the game are still being affected, ttk was solid but left a vast majority of players in the dark like D! launch. April update was great but it became the flag bearer of re-skinned and rehashed content. Rise of Iron was amazing but short becoming more wasted potential as fast as you could type "DEAD GAME LOL AM I RIGHT XD". Age of Triumph was yet again more reskins that was only accepted because it made the year 1 content usable again for about 5 months allowing for a nostalgia rush until D2 came around and well, most of us remember D2 and it's "expansions". Now, saying the game is great is immensely different to saying the game is at its best ever. Bungie has a whole lot more they could do with their resources, but they don't want to commit afraid of angering and losing their already small fanbase. They're in a tough spot, but credit needs to be dolled out where it's due. Honestly, the best way they could reinvigorate all their fans past and present, is too drop the whole "it's not an RPG" act and capitalize on it as well as dropping Activision as a publisher even though it would be financial suicide. Activision has destroyed much more than it has built in the last few years. Tony Hawk, Guitar Hero, and CoD are notable examples and it's even bleeding into Blizzard games. Overwatch is dying off drastically, Diablo developers announce a mobile game which pisses off the community more than supply drops pissed off CoD's and all within a year or so of becoming partners with Activision. Now some of that could have been inevitable or already in the works, but seriously do you know someone as money hungry as Activision other than EA? And even then they are still giving them a run for their money. I forgot a majority of my point, but regardless D2 is at the best Destiny ever has doesn't mean it's great. A majority of people who stuck to Destiny are either stubborn, invested, and/or have faith in Bungo to create a second great franchise to add to their resume along with Halo.

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                          • I would say without even having to think about it and say it with confidence that taken King was destiny at its best. I don't think anyone that has played this game for any length would say this is the best it's been. This is the best D2 has been so far and no one is saying that it's fixed or at its best it's just a really good step in the right direction and that includes bungie.

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                            • Forsaken actually shows Bungie at their laziest. Re-used items, re-used models for new items, one giant perk pool completely uncurated for any weapon type, loot pool so small repeated drops (i.e. edge transit) become meme fodder, etc etc. I'd be really interested to see daily active user counts that aren't completely inflated by the free copy players.

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