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작성자: Spawn
10/30/2018 11:15:07 AM
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So I decided to grind for Luna's Howl - I quit after 1 game.
What follows is a detailed account of my one and only competitive match I will play this season. The names have been changed to protect the innocent, but the events have been told to the best of my recollection.
Please take this with a grain of salt. I work in the research/statistics field for a living and would never claim such a limited anecdotal experience is representative of the population. That said, I do find it comical how closely this seems to match the experiences of those who have put their own sanity on the line in their quest for this season's pinnacle weapons.
Because the rewards looked so good, and because I needed every edge I could get I decided to spend the first 6 weeks grinding, leveling, and gearing to give myself the best shot I could. I made it to 600, studied all the new subclasses, and tested each extensively in quick-play and Iron Banner. Always being a fan of blink, I was partial to Nova Warp (OP discussions reserved for another time), and wasn't surprised to see their overall KDA confirmed via Guardian.GG and other sources.
Great! I had a subclass. Now to gear up with my most meta load-out possible.
Nova Warp - Check
Dust Rock w/ Range MW - Check
Trust w/ Outlaw/Rampage - Check
Wardcliff Coil - Check
Scavenger Perks - Check
Contraverse Hold - No? OK, how about any Forsaken Exotics at all? No? OK, nevermind, I digress.
OK, I was ready, let's do this!
After waiting in orbit for what seemed like a week, my ship finally rockets back to life confident that Bungie's foolproof matchmaking algorithm has selected the best possible competitive match for me and my soon-to-be brothers in arms.
I quickly check the roster, and find my first of many disappointments. Four solos vs. you guessed it, a four-stack. OK, not what I would have chosen, but what do I know? I'm not the Bungo-Tron-5000, and who am I to question our future robot overlord? Let's see who we're up against.
Of our four opponents one has Luna's Howl and one has Not Forgotten. Not a great start. All four are using high range SGs. One Chaperone. Two Warps and Two Barrages. OK, so they're a little further along than I am. Or maybe a lot further along, this being my first Comp match all season. But let's not despair.
But wait, there's one more detail about this team that seems suspicious. The two with Luna's/NF are from the same clan. And the other two? From two different clans. I'm not into conspiracy theories, but could these be account recoveries? Nah, I'm probably just paranoid, they probably just used LFG to round out their team like I would do if I was a little smarter and not a glutton for punishment hellbent on doing this on my own.
Let's reserve judgement for now and just do our best.
My next surprise comes when we begin our descent toward Earth. OK, Bannerfall?, Legions?, Midtown?. Nope. Vostok. Ugh! Does anyone really like this map?
No matter, we'll give it our best and I'm sure that we'll do just. . . F@$K!!! Countdown! Why not just keep Elimination, I mean did they really need to create objective game modes in compe. . . I'm sorry, I digress.
This is fine, we'll do fine. Let's go Team! Round 1!
Team? Team? Where's the rest of my team. I see AsianTomCruise, he's here and nice Wishender BTW. And there's Dildozer, suspiciously immobile, but where's Admiral_Snackbar? Is he still in a holding pattern somewhere over Trostlands? Nope, just gone. No warning, no explanation, just up and vanished like a fart in the wind.
OK, we're still OK, we've got this just stay togeth. . . Tom? Where's Tom? TOM!!!!, you're rushing them with a bow! Bold strategy, but he's AsianTomCruise, and that's kind of his thing. He must know something I don't. Wishender got a buff right? I mean sure it did, upon taking damage you now get an overshield equal to 10x damage taken and it fires Wolf-pack Rounds, Gjallarhorn style.
Oh, wait, no it doesn't do any of that, and. . . Oh hi shotgun. . . Round 2!!!
After an exceptionally long pause Tom and I spawn in on offense sans-Dildozer. Seems a little quick to be booted for inactivity, but hey I'm not Bungo-Tron-5000. This time ATC (that's what his friends call him) and I rush together. and attempt a flanking maneuver through the caves hopeful to get the drop on at least one of them.
Success!!! They've closed on us from every entrance trapping us in the middle of the cave. . . Shotgun blasts ensue. . .Round 3!
ATC had to bring mom some TP in the bathroom so I'm solo on this one. In an act of extreme cunning I decide to see how long I can play hide and seek with them. They didn't know I changed the game mode.
Shotgun blasts ensue. . . Round 4!
Blade Barrage . . . Round 5!
Nova Warp . . . Round 6!
Nova Warp . . . MY NOVA WARP!!! Payback time. . . Blade Barrage . . . Round 7!
Nova Warp . . . Your Team Loses!
Uninstall.
Seriously though, this was my first Comp match I've played all season and with little embellishment for comedic effect this is pretty much how it went. I'm not exaggerating when I say I won't play another match this season. Lunas/NF look great, but not worth the frustration, and my hats off to all of you who did it legit.
I'm just hoping they offer Luna's via a Broadsword style time-investment quest next season. I love Destiny and Crucible, but Comp is a different world. Between the paid carries and broken matchmaking it needs real work before its ever something I'd consider putting any serious time investment into.
Good Luck out there Guardians, I'm pulling for ya!
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EDIT: Thanks to those who took the time to read, and got a laugh out of it. Just to clarify I'm really not trying to complain here. I really just wanted to see if comp was as bad as everyone makes it out to be this season, and thought it was funny I ran into almost all of the problems people complain about in a single match.
Loaded in with 3 teammates, matched against a 4-stack, players who were already Fabled/Legend rank, potential account recoveries (although this is an outside chance based only on the players being from different clans, probably not a recovery), AFK teammates, and another who didn't have the first clue. I totally expect anyone playing in a competitive team to use the best (meta) weapons and set-up.
If I really wanted to make a serious run at it I have friends who are great PvP Players, and made the grind for Redrix with them last season. Even after being carried though it was really painful and I just couldn't bring myself to do it again this season, but wanted to see if it had improved. Spoiler: It hasn't.
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6 답변You claim to have a background in stats and that a limited anecdotal experience such as yours is not representative of the population/activity, and yet here you are quitting after one game from drawing a conclusion from said anecdotal experience. Because why else would you quit from one game if you did not already draw a conclusion?
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3 답변I checked the stats of the game. There is at least one account recovery in that game. Guy with an average 0.6 KD in Countdown suddenly has a 3.33 KD in that game... Yeah right.
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Yo dude, Sorry to hear about your rough ride. I think I'm just about done too. Four solo's vs a full recov team is something that is way too common. And when its a lobby full of randoms they always put the highest elo players on the same team. It's a really dumb way of matching people tbh. I don't think I've been in a comp game that was actually well matched. I always seem to get absolutely smashed or I one man army the game coming out with 30 kills unbroken. my go figure will two burst kill in one game yet the next game I can't take down their shields in four. It's just Destiny I gues. The system really sucks.
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2 답변I got very fortunate in my first solo comp match this season. All randoms. There was one guy on the other team who was okay and everyone else was pure potato, though I reckon the ones on my team were extra potato. It was countdown on Vostok. I finished with 20 points and a 10 efficiency, but it was the most stressful game of my life because I realised pretty quick that if I died, my team weren’t gonna be able to get he job done. Like I said, Luck was on my side and I’d been matched against players I was better than, so I came away with the W. I decided then and there though that I’m never going solo into comp again. It’s just too unpredictable. You get potatos and you’re up against a stack... people bail before the match starts, people go AFK. Not putting myself through the frustration and hassle when you can find players to go in with.
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2 답변I haven’t played Comp yet but I will have to suffer 25 games of it in pursuit of the broadsword. I won’t be AFKing or just phoning in those games. I will try to win and then at the end of my 25 assess whether to keep grinding for the Luna after wrapping up the broadsword. However if Comp is anywhere near as toxic as people on here make it out to be I’ll be running for the hills once my 25 is up haha
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I feel your pain. I invested a lot in D1 and by the end I was good enough to barely make it to positive kd. I also have friends who were lighthouse natives up to season 3 and owner of them even does account recoveries but even they say that matchmaking is garbage and gameplay is crap compared to d1 which are also crap btw. PvP on general (including gambit) is just trash and rest of the game is out of the hype zone. Bungie is back where it was in a dump and it has been riding the streamers and carriers hype train for too long. Other games will definitely beat it in near future.
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I almost exclusievly play PvE. Only time I play crucible if I can bear doing the daily challenge but even then I tend to avoid that. I do play a lot of Gambit however. But only with friends, never solo. People who do that solo are signing their own death warrant.
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5 답변작성자: Jullz_WOLF 10/30/2018 7:19:14 AMdo the bounties first. grind out the bounty requirements on a low glory rank, so u could finish up the requirements. Once u have finished all the steps, then consider the climb to fabled. i say this cuz the final step is 100 head shot kills with a hand cannon. i know that it isnt a tough task, but once u hit fabled, the matches will get sweatier and landing preciosion headshots with a hand cannon will b more difficult to land, unless u r already great with hand cannons. i am not a hand cannon fan, never was and i hit fabled with 0 interest to get the lunas, but my team were all having fun with the bounties, i figured it wouldn't hurt to get it as well.
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I normally don’t take time to read these really lengthy posts. I have to say as I sit here drinking my coffee I’m glad I did. It was really well written with some good comic relief throne in. Stay safe out there Guardian 👍
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작성자: PilksUK 10/30/2018 10:06:53 AMI got up to the solar kills part of the quest about 2 weeks ago and haven't touched PVP since ignored all the milestones etc and will never be playing PVP in D2 again until they fix matchmaking and balance the weapons better....Its just not fun... I was talked into trying a f2p shooter a few days ago and pvp experience was so good and refreshing how can a free game do a better job at pvp than a triple A company...
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Great post simply for putting an amusing spin on a familiar tale I am utter utter garbage at pvp so this would never be a quest I would embark on. I have however,read on a daily basis my clan mates frustrations at the grind and they all echo largely the underlying content of your post Comp is no myth it is as bad if not worse than advertised
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I did basically the same thing except with one clan mate that wanted to go for luna's till we hit the first match and it was basically the 2 of us mostly him against a stacked team all with basically the same loadouts you stated. The difference is 2 of them were lagging all over the map teleporting and you couldn't even land a shot before he would disappear then all the sudden kill you around the corner through a wall or from behind you. There is nothing competitive about Destiny and matchmaking is a complete joke.
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I leave those PVP style Quests rotting in the inventory due to all the above mentioned comments above . Also due to the way the whole game is set up for online play is a joke love watching that one dude teleport around the map Then stab me and teleport off again . The struggle is real
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I admire your pluck mate....to venture forth and outline the obvious glaring flaws that PvP has shows courage. It comes as no shock to read some of the crass replies from the self righteous elitist holier than thou pricks who try to put you down. I was thinking about the state of play now Bungie have produced Luna and Forgotten and Redrix. My way of thinking is that those who have obtained these weapons should only be able to compete in a separate Crucible entity where only the 'Godly can play but also means they cannot access Quickplay or Competitive. That would greatly encourage lesser skilled players to have a crack. Imagine all those glory hunters having to compete against others of alleged equal skill....what a hoot. Why, I can hear the screams of indignation now....
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14 답변There is nothing good enough about Luna to make me even consider trying to grind for it. The thought alone drains me of all life, hearing this story only confirms my suspucions. On a side note I really hope AsianTomCruise gets his Luna, he's the real MVP here.
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The matchmaking works fine, the problem is that the game is more than ever now divided between casuals who try to have fun, and no lifer try hards who try to put food on the table. Bungie management is the only one to blame, not the coders, as it’s bungie who tried to compensate the lack of content or fun in the game by relying on group theories. You just got the full sense of bungie’a “friendship” definition! This game turned into a self fulfilling prophecy and despite all bungie’s efforts on forsaken’s strobe lights, fewer and fewer players are blind. The content for each release is about 2h of game (considering 45min of loading screens), then it’s purely grinding progression in the most boring and frustrating ways, overcoming wandering blueberries and now we can add grinding for days to earn slightly less cheaper weapons than the ones we are supposed to already have “fun” with for 500h. Bungie in 2018 is the shame of the video games industry. No one in this industry screwed up on so many fans so massively. Gg to bungie’s background designers and music/ambiance creators!
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2 답변작성자: Wintermute 2050 10/31/2018 2:34:20 PMThe main problem I have with the quest is lag and poor hit detection due to PTP. Even with a 100 Mbps connection and living in a major city shots often do not register as well as they should. I rarely have matches where shots are crisp and definite. I doubt that I will bother to complete the quest.
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