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작성자: TheMeddler777 10/9/2018 1:30:16 PM
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Simple poll. How many think comp should be doable for non top tier solo players?

yes: competitive playlist and glory ranking advancement should be doable as a solo player

2211

no: competitive playlist should require a team for successful advancement

641

Star the post regardless your opinion. I want as accurate a poll as I can get. [spoiler]I think the majority of solo players have made their point on the forum that bungie never reads, so if you disagree say why[/spoiler] I personally think that the current system requires no skill at all. I think the only way to really judge skill is to do so solo, and that to accurately judge someone's skill we need to remove the team aspect and bring back assists as a separate bracket. But that's just me. What do you think? [spoiler]I don't think that we should only have solo for Comp, but we need a change[/spoiler] Edit: I've had to edit once already because of technicality, so let's put this fair, explain your vote regardless of what you choose. I personally do not think one skill can be judged in a team with the current mechanics in place. Comp is based on skill, so why is that not reflected? Reiteration: the number of replies and stars is what it takes for bungie to see this. Just polls taken won't be enough. Even if you don't have a comment please star it if you want them to see it. Thanks [spoiler] yay more edits[/spoiler] Edit number 3: it's really sad I have to say this but there are children amongst us who can't keep thing mature. I will tolerate disrespect towards myself to an extent. I will not tolerate it towards other members. Be respectful or don't be here at all. [spoiler]any day now bungie[/spoiler] Edit number 4: I'm not a new player by any means. I've been playing destiny for a while. I've seen some ups, some downs, quite a bit of it all. Don't come in here expecting me to not know what I'm talking about. Don't do that to yourself. [spoiler]let's change it up a bit from edits[/spoiler] Can anyone tell me why comp is meant for teams?[spoiler]last edit I do believe[/spoiler] The majority of comments that don't involve point changes is simply have a solo que. Put solos against solos, and teams against teams. Thanks for playing guys. It's been fun

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  • I think a more accurate, objective assessment of skill is found in destiny tracker or that trials website. They use many variables and long term trends. Imo, Bungie should use that data rich analysis to matchmake. Otherwise, there are many matches were it's like watching a MLB team seriously play a little league team.

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  • I go in mainly solo because it is difficult to get on at the same time as the majority of my clanmates. That being said, the following is what I observe currently: 1. Comp for solo doesn't exist unless going against another team of solos. Only then can skill truly be assessed. No comms so it depends on how you play with your teammates including but not limited to (a) how you play off your teammates during engagements, (b) gun skill (ads, strafing, using many variety of weapons and builds), (c) emo check, and (d) adaptability. 2. As stated by the person posting the original comment, current ranking is not a ranking system, it is a leveling system. ELO isn't a true indicator of skill either because you can topboard on your team, lose, and get a negative ELO score. 3. TTK is faster (finally), but team-shooting is still prevalent in the crucible, so you still rarely get 1v1's to get a chance to outplay another guardian. No-brain shotgunners run the gamut in the crucible where even the current amount of players using Telesto the Besto isn't enough to combat these shotgun warriors. Shotguns don't require skill to use, much like a rocket launcher. Should comp be possible for solo players? I think it should, but it depends on: 1. If Bungie finally decides to implement a real ranking system. 2. Adjust the ELO formula so that there is a truer indicator of one's skills, and use that in a larger formula/algorithm to calculate one's rank, and place said rank in a population ranking board. 3. If Bungie implements a true competitive mode. Map design is difficult (anyone who says it isn't is clearly does not understand map design for FPS), but Bungie needs to create a fun, exciting, challenging comp modes. 3v3 isn't the solution, 4v4 isn't the solution because it depends on map design, weapon systems design, and a guardian's movement.

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  • The sweats can keep Comp. I only play Crucible for the engram. I recently tried Rumble and now I may never go back to QP. Rumble is fast, it's fair, and I find myself trying new weapons instead of having to stay with the meta-of-the-month. Rumble let's me just play around without being worried about messing up my team or being stuck with teammates that are even worse at PvP than I am.

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  • I don’t see why having a playlist that fosters coordinated play is looked down upon. I would also argue that successful coordination with multiple people takes far more skill than one guy just going around pew pewing. Strategy and successful teamwork should be rewarded. If you don’t like being pitted against teams in synchronization with each other, build or join a team yourself. It’s easy. If you don’t want to solve your own problems and would rather just complain and continue to be miserable go ahead, but at the end of the day, people will still team up, you will still be matched against them, you’ll still be irritated, and your internet vendetta will have been pointless. This is coming from somebody who doesn’t play competitive. Mostly because I don’t like the game types. But I’m fine with there being something in the game I choose not to play. I have like 3 other crucible modes to entertain me.

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    • Uhm. Use your mic. If everyone would use their mic in comp, you would have a team in no time.

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      • [spoiler]Git[/spoiler] [spoiler]Gud[/spoiler] [spoiler]...well, somebody had to do it. :P I don't understand the question. I starred it though[/spoiler]

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      • I just don't understand why there just can't be options of teamplay and solo play.

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        • 작성자: UltraMark73 10/6/2018 12:38:42 PM
          I'm a lower skilled 1kd PvP player (i know i know git gud blah blah) and have been having a worse time in QP since sbmm was turned off. Any complaints about this on the forums l was told to play competitive as that is supposed to be a more skill based system.......hmmm I'm not so sure about that, although it would make perfect sense to have harder games the higher your ranking gets. Guess I'm just saying that competitive should be just that, competing against people at a similar level to you.

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        • Like the post. Let's see what bungie does

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        • For single player rewards, it should be single player competitive. My opinion, a competitive ranked Rumble should of been introduced from the beginning.

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          • My point here is that of something can not be done by an everyday player(copious amounts of time and struggle included) then they should not be able to do them alone. My example for this is the old raids. Yes some top tier players can pull them off one man. But the majority is not a top tier player. Simply put... Make an effing solo playlist for comp.

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            • My point in this post is to show that solos have done what they can without playing with randos. And we shouldn't have to. Any argument you have I have something for. I have watched my glory score go from 0 to 600 back to zero back to 600 because of this system. It needs to change. I would have had redrix claymore if they system hadn't changed in the first place. It. would have taken forever, but I could have done it. Now I can't

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              • 작성자: ForgottenAwoken 10/6/2018 11:38:55 AM
                Edit: it is doable for solo players, may be more difficult, but doable. Its a team event, solo queuing doesn't change that. Maybe the should make a competitive rumble. This will show true solo skills.

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              • 작성자: Nicarus86 10/6/2018 11:34:04 AM
                Competitive is just that: Competitive! That is the playlist where the sweat and salt is gonna fly in there! That is also the main reason I stay out, I'm trying to UNWIND after work, not get more riled up! That said, I think the main thing that sucks with it is it holds some of the best stuff the game offers, and as I said earlier, it is rage-inducing salty sweats if you aren't prepared. So yeah, it needs a dependable fireteam (even better if you can laugh with the people you play with).

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              • Bungie can easily fix comp by reducing loss penalty to zero. After a loss max points from a win drop 50% then 35% then 25% Would greatly reduce quitters, may even stop the suicide players looking to get 25 completions for Redrix. Tryhards will still get their pubstomps so can feel better about their micropenis and solo players can have fun.

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                • Bump this. The poll is speaking for itself.

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                • I was 1854 now > 1552 (c" ತ,_ತ)

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                • 작성자: SnakePayne86 10/6/2018 4:40:52 AM
                  I thought it was, just have to be elite or something.

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