Lol as if rng is progressing, or actually having my time respected is a "handout". Get lost

It isn't a waste of time if you get what is promised lol

What was promised was cool new exotics. What we got was an artificial grind and low drop rates

The whole game is artificial dude, I don't get this whole "artificial " thing as if we aren't playing a simulated game where every facet of every event is designed and programmed. What would be a "real " grind then?

Any of the other exotic quests where you actually make progress. Get rekt.

??? So let me get this straight. If you get exotics in the alloted time yiu feel is reasonable, it's real. But if you don't, THEN it's fake? U didn't know you were the CEO if Bungie snd the lead designer on this game. But do tell. When were we talking about exotics anyway and not masterwork cores?

If there's a clear, difficult, quest with a guaranteed reward, that's a grind, that's a good way to acquire exotics. If I play every day for three weeks doing all the milestones, and get none at all, that's bullshit. Also nice spelling buddy. And no I'm not the CEO of bungie but I am a person with common sense who can see that this grind is stupid and the drop rates are too low. Muted.

Infusion isn’t progression😂.. It’s simply not being stuck with weapons and armor you hate... You’re not even 500.. You haven’t experienced the issue... Moving on..

I have experienced it BECAUSE I'm not 500 lol

No... You haven’t hit any of the gear caps yet.. You can easily do everything in blues.. You’ve had no need for good weapons and exotics to be infused so you can get through certain activities...

In your last post you spoke about using weapons you hate. It's the same thing here, I have gear on me that can take me to 500, I even have the achievement for 500 but I don't like hand cannons or autos so id rather use gear a little lower that's fun to use.

[quote]So many people wanted handed their progression, it's hilarious[/quote] So many people like to make things up so they can feel better about themselves talking down on others. What makes it dumb is that your reply is like these kids that brag about their Kd. You literally have no clue on what you're talking about and it shows how you really don't think before making a reply. But go ahead and insult the gamers, you know because using lines that some of the kids made up on this forum that is now the ten is the thing to do right? Now let's look at reality, the progression system should have been similar to ROI. Meaning not easy, but there was no excuse to go way overboard either and going way overboard was exactly what Bungie did so they could stretch out the lack of loot in the loot table, and you think it's just the grind. You are so far off that it actually surprises me knowing you been playing destiny since D1.

No offense kid, But you should be the LAST person to EVER speak on people talking down to other people on here. Just calling a spade a spade.

[quote]No offense kid, But you should be the LAST person to EVER speak on people talking down to other people on here. Just calling a spade a spade.[/quote] Kid? okay... I'm most likely to be old enough to be your dad, but I could be wrong. Anyways, since you like to spread false comments I'm going to enjoy showing you how wrong you actually are and everyone else. I will even go to the extent of telling you to look over my profile because I have Nothing to hide. Please use your head before making a reply, reason being is when I make threads 99.99% of the time I make them about Bungie, not the community. Then gamers will come on the thread I made because they don't like the way I express my opinion about Bungie and insult me. Now, tell everyone here how I don't have the right to kind of defend myself knowing what I post 99.99% of the time that [b](literally has nothing to do with the community?)[/b] Yet you attempted to say what again??? I guess in your eyes because I kind of defend my self from the insults gamers make about me when I talk about Bungie proves I'm the one that goes around talking down on gamers. I will tell you this though, I'm not saying I have never done it, but I don't make it a habit like most gamers do on here like (you just attempted to say and failed hardcore) that I do. When you can actually prove, meaning show facts that "I go around constantly putting gamers down"? You might have something, but since you're so full of it? have a nice day bud ;)

I’m 37 years old so old enough to be my dad would mean you are getting those sweet senior citizen discounts. I was simply pointing something out that I find accurate. Stop with the “Me Odin, me better” b.s. I simply critique where I feel the need for critique.

Your dad must be disappointed in you for being such a -blam!-ing shill

Well first off I didn't insult anyone, players like myself whom the community have graciously dubbed the Bungie Defense Force said months ago that if they went back to D1 style play this would happen. And I'm not looking down on anyone because I've got nothing to look down from. Check my character, barely 500 and still wearing blues. I'm doing the grind same as everyone else, I just have the perspective to see why it was changed that way that so many here seem to lack. Bungie what's players to play their game longer. We know this, is simple business strategy. They've implemented many systems since this franchise began to ensure that this happens. But when D2 came out they tried as usual to please everyone, including who cried about not getting exotics(remember the 3000 hours and no gjally posts?) And not feeling rewarded for the massive amounts of time put into this game. So what happened was D2 was dropping exotics like candy, they no longer felt special or earned which belive it or not is a very important factor in keeping players for any given game. So now being able to get those precious weapons with less effort, what did these fans do? Cry more, this time asking for more of a grind. Now we have Forsaken and that grind is back in full force, the loot is stingy and time consuming but guess what... when you drop exotics you actually feel something now, like all that time you spent was worth it. I still haven't dropped an exotic, and while granted I've been playing on and off due to time in other games I'm still having fun. My point is you can't have the cake and eat it too, you either have too much grind or not enough, and this remains the same throughout every DLC since D1.

You do realize the loot table is little next to nothing at all right? As I said, the progression system is the problem along with the lack of loot added to the loot table. I don't mind a grind, but to use D2 Y1 loot as a reward to fill in that void is just wrong no matter how anyone tries to justify it. This is supposed to be a new expansion with (new rewards in all aspect of the game,) and plenty of it to boot. Look at Ttk and ROI loot table and tell me I'm wrong?

I see your point there but even then considering that masterwork cores and shards, which largely come from deleting legendaries it isn't that bad to have some duplicates

Nothing wrong in having duplicates as you explained and I will agree that things shouldn't be handed out. But, the cores are not really the issue here, it's a combo of things. I mean how long is Bungie going to hold out until they give in to increase the drop rate for certain items that gamers are interested in? IMO some of the previous content should have been updated with the new expansion giving the player base to at least look forward to the possibility of getting new items and it keeps some of the previous events like EP relevant. Not saying all of it, but enough to keep gamers engaged in their game so they don't feel like the new content is all that is being offered. A honeymoon only lasts so long with only having a certain amount of content relevant. Edit: I have to apologize for coming off wrong by taking your thread wrong. Since you explained it cleared things up.