Considering forsaken brought back legit a million and a half players (judging by destiny tracker), id say the silent majority likes it as is. D2 at launch was abysmal and nothing like what people wanted. Playerbase went from 8 million to a little over 700k...which is -blam!-in amazing. After forsaken dropped we now have over 4 million logging on daily and playin the game. Numbers speak for themselves. No one wnats your casual shit.

I mostly come to these forums for entertainment.....I don't ever think that anything posted here makes any difference to the game....If it did then the infusion system would have been addressed better. Most people are playing the game and not on the forums....The people who complain or love watching things burn post their negativity on the forums. The people who are loving the game are playing the game and most who don't like it just move on to other stuff. LOL....This forum is the definition of a toxic entitlement mentality.....It's so very entertaining to read some of the crazy crybaby posts on here....Some times it's just great fun reading and responding

It's fine, game devs don't read their own forums anyway, this is just a scream box. They only pay attention to Reddit.

That’s why there is no SBMM in crucible. Only the sweaty virgins who wanna have easy wins get listened too.

Negativity Bias. When you're upset about something you're more likely to rise up and protest/complain to affect chance.

I wouldn't say the feedback necessarily comes from causal players. It just comes from players that the most recent content release isn't designed for. People who are enjoying the game right now aren't here because they don't feel like they need to be. That's the real problem with out-of-game forums. It's never a truly accurate source of information simply because people only come here to criticize. Those people who criticize get what they ask for, and the people who were previously happy get angry and come here to complain. Then those people get changes they want, while the other audience is too busy playing the game to give a voice on the topic. Simply put, the game goes in one big loop because different parts of the community are here at different times depending on which group wants changes.

Dont now about that. Read these forums and you will know they are full of self described "casuals". But many "casuals" call themselves casual and still put in 4-6 hrs day or 20+ hrs a week. So to me thats not to casual. I consider myself a casual as I only maybe play 10-12hrs a week if that.

If you don’t talk your voice doesn’t get heard. That’s just how it is. We shouldn’t appeal to the silent majority just because they don’t make their voices heard.

I would think it's obvious that people who don't share their opinions don't get their opinions heard. Bungie does pay attention to the general player population though. They do this by tracking how many people log on to play and how often they log in to play.

[quote]aVAST majority of players are unable to contribute their opinions to this or any debate. [/quote] These people don’t have access to the app via phone, tablet, PC, or laptop? Unacceptable! Babies are born with one or the other in hand.

Most players just do the story and leave so i think its good for bungie to listen to the forums. No these forums tho the reddit ones the ones here a toxic crap.

More to the point the people who enjoy the game dont comment often on the forum because they get attacked by the majority of people on this forum who hate pr are annoyed at the game.

[quote]As people continue to argue about whether there is too much randomness/ unfulfilling grind in destiny 2 at the moment, I would just like to point out that a VAST majority of players are unable to contribute their opinions to this or any debate. This means that most of the feedback bungie actually gets comes from the more hardcore side of the community because most casual players don't use forums.[/quote] NO NERFS EVER!

Again, so many wonderful comments here with the majority being well thought out and extremely sincere. Yes, it did backfire and NO the first year was not the cause of anything. Honestly it was on par and the more this continues the more its proven correctly that the system, the foundation was laid perfectly, with the glaring issue of, "IT NEEDED END GAME CONTENT" was all that it actually 'neeeeeded' Hate to say this but it wasn't the tokens or the ease of obtaining anything (exotics sucked anyway with legendaries were on par if not better) so the ease of obtaining an exotic in the first year is a mute point. The system, at that time, couldnt or didnt provide content creators, streamers and the like, anything and I mean ANY thing to use....so the uprise started, pitch forks came out. (shoulda coulda woulda) tsk tsk! relying on bungie for ones living expenses. So here we are now with sweet 'preciousous' loot for minority. Not saying part timers can't get the loot but to do so as was stated later in this thread, "You need a top notch team on call 24/7" "SNAP!" of the fingers and the team is ready to go, this means having 3 to 6 on call to run anything, anywhere, anytime. Destiny's world is to small, content is to sparse to support this greed, lust and fame crap. It cant support a world of warcraft level of content or any MMO type of atmosphere and it sure does attempt it. Destiny is a looter shooter with some side pvp content, its Borderlands with a gorgeous sky box but not as much content, so give me a break with this silliness, give the 'silent majority' a break and let us enjoy the game as it was meant to be enjoyed. Honestly, nothing is going to change considering the glaring advertisements or the, "Its Rick Kackis here! and today I have TONS of info to put out" that runs the show, *shrug as one melee's the creepy crawly guys that go BOOM* See you star side!