As the title says the new progression system could do with a revisit, currently the way it works is:
- Flashpoint, Heroic Story, Heroic Adventure, Strikes, Crucible, Gambit, Ikora and Clan XP rewards all give +5 power items until 520 when it goes down to +1 power.
- Nightfall and Nightfall Score Challenge rewards give +5 power until 540 then +1 power after that.
- Dreaming City weeklies and Challenge rewards give +5 power until 560 then +1 power after that.
So what does this mean?
Firstly it eliminates any choice in the order you do your activities if you want to actually be rewarded, as increases are based on your average power level it's pointless doing any +1 PL activities before doing the +5 ones. If one of your clan-mates jumps on and wants to hit up strikes, tough luck if you haven't cleared the nightfall/dreaming city yet, you either lose out on power or tell them to find someone else.
Secondly it HEAVILY penalizes you if you end up having a large amount of equipment clustered around your average power, with one low item bringing that average down. You can no longer take advantage of any of the +1 power activities unless you first boost that one low piece of gear. This can lead to players falling far behind their peers based purely on the distribution of their drops rather than the effort they put in. For example if my gear is all 522+ and I have a pair of boots at around 215 dragging the average down to 521, all of my +1 gear will drop at 522 making it useless unless I luck out and find a pair of boots.
Thirdly and the biggest issue is players have wasted effort particularly this week, because none of the power level increases are explained anywhere in game. The entire system is left ambiguous with all the rewards being listed identically as "powerful engrams". Bungie needs to show the difference in game between activities that will reward +5 power and +1 power, rather than expecting us to trawl through their twitter feed, blog posts and youtube creators analysis to find the answer.
[b]TL;DR [/b]- The tiered power system means once you hit 520 you need to do your +5 PL activities first, punishes players with specific low pieces of gear by denying them rewards and isn't properly illustrated in the UI.
EDIT: For anyone looking for help levelling, Daniel300999 posted a helpful guide [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/248521951?sort=0&page=0]here[/url].
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16 답변작성자: What I Look Like 9/13/2018 2:44:49 PMPeople think this shit is grinding, that's laughable. All these people need to get into World of Warcraft or Runescape so you can kill 250 wild boars for a set of leather armor or whatever.
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작성자: P3rfectEnemy 9/13/2018 2:39:03 PMIt is slow, but it gives us something to play for! Imagine the hate and outcry if people were already 600! The game feels more rewarding right now, what’s wrong with that? Also, I’m not sure about everyone else but I get prime engram drops at the rate of one every ~2 hours of play time. These give +1-2 light, right? This means a casual player (~5-10 hours per week) could probably increases their overall light around 5 per week after 520 (up to 540) by playing just the weeklies and earning the random primes. Contrast that with most of us in the forums who put 20-30 or more hours per week. My light has increased from 515 to 523 in the past 6 hours of gameplay. If we play smart and efficiently light can go up just fine, or we can, you know, have fun! Light level will come.
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1 답변작성자: tomhughesnice 9/13/2018 2:04:23 PMThanks for the information, I was not aware of this. TBH I don't think Bungie should have removed all the weekly and daily challenges from the Milestone sidebar in the Director interface. These challenges could have been ordered by reward potential to solve this particular problem.
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작성자: MindfulPizza 9/13/2018 2:32:05 PMWTF talking about , were now back to 150mill random gear and weapons again , rolls , that improve the character skill again . yea guardians not make it the 3.5 billion way , but it not the same , since right builds work different for every character again. hunt prime engrams there not weekly , get gear score or light level higher , lost sectors work great and well of light,. Take it your not even at the soft cap of 50 and 500 light , and not at endgame , and even elites still finding endgame out . sounds like you do not even understand a soft cap . from hard cap.
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I don’t agree. But I don’t really know how to explain why in a short post. But basically if you keep the highest light weapon or armor in your inventory, even if its not equipped, then you will get the highest drops possible. Over time you will be able to infuse things easily. Power level going up by one was explained before the expansion comes out. Otherwise you would be at max light right now angry that there isn’t anything to do
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4 답변yea the game is back to being a real game instead of a casual everyones a snowflake festival.
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This sounds exactly the same as it's always been. (The soft cap and PL average stoppages) Maybe everything was worth the same PL-wise before? But the change would make sense, nightfalls and raids [i]should [/i]be worth more. They haven't eliminated player choice either. You're [i]choosing[/i] to take the most efficient route. that's fine. But the other options are still there. [spoiler]There can only ever be 1 most efficient path anyways. [/spoiler]
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1 답변작성자: Abrrinacave 9/13/2018 3:39:26 PMIt doesn't 'eliminates player choice'. The point of it doing that is so it will slowly push you into the endgame as you approach endgame levels. You shouldn't be able to sit in the corner eating mayo from a jar and hit max level.
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Experienced this very problem this week when my prime engram dropped first and gave me a 530 helmet when i was overall 526 light! I then proceeded to get shite RNG n got 4 helmets from my powerful engrams all at 527!
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What sucks is that I have been getting non stop weapons on my warlock(my main), so it very difficult to go up in light. I finally got a helmet last night from a prime engram, but before that I was using a blue helmet that was a higher light then my others, a blue, a mother -blam!-ing blue
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8 답변plus five plus one plus what?? im 529 and am getting plus 15 engrams in dreaming city. the EF you talking about
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10 답변Just stop grinding then. There is no real content anyway Lol if you think about it - what is there to do once you explored the dreaming city? PvP is still a joke, there are only 2 new strikes and gambit ... couldn‘t be easier
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3 답변Maaan you guys put way too much thought into everything, just play. (Just my 2 cents, don't take it personally) Also looking for raid group.
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5 답변I wasn't aware this was the case, so thanks for the info; I'm a little shy of 520 still! Anyone have a clue as to where prime engrams sit in these tiers??
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7 답변strange, i have done stuff in whatever order i want and am 530+ on both my characters, the problems you described are only a problem if you are trying to get max light as quick as possible. And even then it isn’t a problem, but an issue of efficiency, you will still get increased level gear, just not in an optimal way...
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I still think it may be better to do everything else first and get your power level as high as possible before getting the big drops from the nf and dreaming city. Doing everything else first gives a much better chance of you filling in that one or two low pieces you have with some actually good gains. Then once you've done all the low stuff and filled in (and maybe gotten some prime engrams along the way) go for the big drops, especially DC where you get 3 drops at once from Petra. I am at 532 on my titan having done it this way and not using any of the cheesy power up exploits. I do agree with your main point, though. This is one of the most convoluted and poorly explained progression systems in the history of man. I don't think the system is bad, necessarily - that has yet to be seen. But they absolutely MUST do a better job explaining the difference in the power level of the drops.
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Could you source where you found the data for the Power tiers of these engrams? I've had a much different experience, even at my current 522 Power (I started 4 days late.) Just yesterday, the Engram I got from Ikora dropped a Fusion Rifle that has 526 Power, when my Power at the time of completing the Quest was 518.
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3 답변dude just shut up man destiny is finally good again and this is the stupidest thing to complain about. “PLZ DONT MAKE ME DO STRIKES BEFORE DREAMING CITY” headass