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작성자: LeanMantella811 9/7/2018 9:55:49 PM
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P.S. I have also seen things in Sunshine specifically that weren't any sort of exploit or glitch, and it was just as impressive as many top tier Odyssey content, in many ways even-more so. Sunshine and Odyssey are pretty neck-and-neck at a reasonable player level field and consistency. Though those underwater levels in the weird tiny bottle dimension in Sunshine can go die, those mechanics suck and are glitchy and buggy as hell in a bad way. Odyssey has infinitely better underwater mechanics and tasks.
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  • It’s definitely close, but I would rate Odyssey’s core mechanics ever so slightly above Sunshine. Agreed about the underwater segments.

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  • ...but you said "no Mario game can compete with Odyssey mechanics", yet you say Sunshine is close. Wouldn't that technically be competing?

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  • I mean, in a completely literal sense even Galaxy is technically competing, despite having the worst mechanics.. I just meant it wins.

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  • 작성자: LeanMantella811 9/7/2018 11:36:19 PM
    Honestly my main point was just me criticizing how limited Mario was...I just love how free he is in games like Odyssey, Sunshine, and especially 64... I know 64 has a lot of glitches and exploits going for it same for World, Bros 3, Bros 2, and Yoshi's Island, but it does add big time to the mechanical freedom. Though on average, Sunshine and Odyssey are probably the most free Mario games. Galaxy games are awesome, but Mario's controls and physics always felt sloppy, sluggish, and stiff to me in Galaxy...that I prefer quite a bit of Mario games to it... Galaxy does have those planetoid physics and tricks though. 64, Sunshine, and Odyssey are my holy trinity of Mario...and Mario's gameplay freedom, mastery, movement, and momentum stuff are a big reason why. Super Mario 64's even my favorite game of all time tbh, and Sunshine and Odyssey are up there as well. P.S., didn't you say Odyssey was the weakest 3D Mario game? ...or was that someone else?

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  • Oh, don’t get me wrong, I love Galaxy, just.. Well, you already made the same argument I would. :p I think Odyssey has a lot of problems. Too many Moons, and too open of a world being the chief among them. I wouldn’t say it’s the worst, though.

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  • What's your ranking of 3D Mario games? Mine would be; Super Mario 64 > Sunshine = Odyssey > Galaxy 2 > Galaxy 1 > 3D World >>>>>>>>>>> 3D Land.

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  • Hm.. I’d say.. Sunshine>Odyssey>64=Galaxy>Galaxy 2

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  • P.S. Does 3D World for the Wii U look interesting and cool to you? I know you haven't played it, but I do recommend it, it may be my second least favorite 3D Mario game, but it's still a great game regardless, and still really fun with great music. 3D Land for the 3DS on the otherhand is just merely "good" and "pretty fun I guess"...I guess I'd fairly recommend it, but not really an essential or that much.

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  • I think it definitely looks fun—I just don’t have a WiiU.

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