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작성자: Spawn
3/22/2018 3:51:20 PM
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Bungie just doesn't care about what players want. That's the reason D2 became like this today.
Take an example.
Do you remember the "traitor's fate" sword? That exclusive one you gained by buying premium edition of the game. I dismantled it because I had never known it is the exclusive one form any official announcement.
When I realize that it cannot be obtain by completing the campaign again with another character, I tried to seek help from the internet, and found pretty a lot of people encounter the same problem. Many of them posted in bungie forum asking to add the sword to vendor's buyable items (only for those purchased premium edition, of course), just like the ghost selling by Shaxx, because it is really stupid to deny people from getting back what they had paid real money for, while it's not mean to be a consumption item.
But there was never a bungie official feedback on this, not even mentioned a bit in their preview on development. Someone said that you may obtain it again from the vendor engrams, at an extremely rare rate. Ok then, I played hard to collect tokens ---- at Banshee44 I opened 300+ engrams, which means 12000+ gun materials spent; also total 500+ engrams from other vendors, but up to today I still haven't got the sword. Really an extreme rate, good work bungie.
Collecting weapons is one of my favourite in playing D2, thus I'll still keep trying. You may say it's a tiny case, but what I want to say is that there are already too many 'tiny cases' like this, and bungie just doesn't give them a shit.
They just keep talking about what they thought wonderful, soak themselves in their own world, and never care about 'tiny things' the players want. And even worse, now seems only themselves think their new features wonderful.
[spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been moved to #Feedback forum so that other Destiny players can weigh in. See [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/139533839/0/0]Cozmo's thread[/url] for more information about the #Feedback tag and its uses.
Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler]
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Why would you delete the sword without knowing what it was? You said collecting is your favorite thing to do, so why delete it? I'm almost positive that PSN had "Traitor's Fate" listed as the exclusive sword. Even then, your title doesn't really match your complaint. You deleted the sword without knowing what it was. That was on you, not Bungie. Instead, you could have held on to it until you figured it out. You must not "collect" very much if you delete random weapons. It sounds to me like you're trying to find some excuse to jump on the Bungie hate wagon.
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1 답변Something else they didn’t seem to learn from D1. There were similar items you couldn’t get back so eventually they added them to the kiosks. Until then, anyone who deleted them were out of luck. The Live team has control now so put something in the feedback forums to their attention and hope for the best. From what I hear that sword model is re-skinned on to some of the other swords. I believe it is the same model as the New Monarchy sword so, really, who cares. All you’re missing is a sword name in your vault. I only buy the base versions of games and I buy DLC one at a time as they launch because I’ve been burned on buying season passes for games I stop playing before the content even comes out. I think the original release for LA Noire on X360 was the last season pass I ever bought.
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28 답변Um... no... the reason D2 is what it is today is BECAUSE they catered to players' wants.
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“The community caused this. You guys whined too much and they ruined the game because of your feedback.” Lmao literally nobody asked for any of the things that they ruined Destiny 2 with. The farther D2 falls, the farther the fanboys try to reach out for some way to defend Bungie.
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3 답변작성자: Unforgiven 3/20/2018 5:55:32 PMBungie made a game that was easiest to make with their resources. You didn't like it, but you bought it. So they are fine with it. All they need to do is to sell the game to you, they don't care if you keep playing it for 2 years after you bought it. Thats the problem but is it just Bungie? No everyone is like that. I am not really making an excuse but it is hard to make videar games. Why don't you try it sometime.
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1 답변I mean I don't like money. So why would Bungie like money? I'm surprised all game developers don't just release their games for free.
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[i]“Theorising that one could have a clear vision of Destiny within his own lifetime, Luke Smith stepped into the Destiny accelerator and vanished... He woke to find himself trapped in the game, facing visions of Destiny that were not his own, and driven by an unknown force to change the game for the worse. His only guide on this journey is John Wisnewski, a PvP narcissist from his own time, who appears in the form of a hologram that only Luke can see and hear. And so Luke finds himself leaping from vision to vision, striving to put wrong what once went right, and hoping each time that his next leap will be the leap home…” “Oh boy…” – Luke Smith[/i]
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7 답변Thinking back to the forums during Destiny 1, I’d say this community got exactly what it deserved with its incessant crying for nerfs. Well guess what, everything got nerfed. Enjoy boredom.
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작성자: Black Magic 3/20/2018 10:24:55 PM[quote]”It’s about what people want to do, what they're enjoying, what they're not liking”[/quote] —Mark Noseworthy 2015 (The Taken King) *Fast Forward 3 years later... [quote]How can my second, third, and tenth Better Devils be the same? That’s a question we should be asking and answering as quickly as possible.[/quote] —Luke Smith (Destiny 2) WTF happened?! [spoiler]Im not liking this one bit.[/spoiler] [spoiler]i guess people wanted more Eververse, a dead weapon system, dead PvP/PvE, and a player base the size of my **** jk[/spoiler]
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작성자: PapaSubpar 3/21/2018 3:52:48 AMInstead of just making the best game that they could. They made a game that they thought would generate the most revenue that they could. They spent more time and money in development of the cash shop than on the actual game play. What they failed to realize is that if they had made a really good game to start, then they could add all of the micro transactions that they want, and people would gobble that shit up and beg for more.
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1 답변작성자: Captain_Haruno 3/19/2018 9:37:46 PMI've had the Traitor's Fate drop for me, maybe from Banshee? Does it only drop if you Preordered, cuz you might be able to get it back that way. It's real rare but you should keep trying.
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Well yes and no. They did give some stuff but left out the stuff that plagued d1. Connection was the major thing. In the ign interview with Luke and another guy dont remember who he was, they asked about decicated servers. If you remember connection issues were all over the forums. That lead to Luke going duh duh duh not at this time. And what ya know? Still connection issues!What a surprise! Other thing is pve and pvp seperation. Gun x is op in pvp! Quick nerf it and make it useless in pve! etc. Now if they can actually stop trying to redo the whole game halfway threw the production maybe this game would be out of this world. But that also would involve them listening to the people who put money in their pockets the players to. Heres to hopeing but getting more disappointment.
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They probably do care about their target demographic, but in the world of software there is this myth circulating, that "users actually don't really know what they want, they just think they know". It is a rather arrogant view on users as a whole, but sometimes this approach can be spot on, when you successfully translate user wishes and analyze the wish behind the wish. However, in the case of this game this has gone horribly wrong and their user feedback translation resulted in the complete opposite of what most users wanted. If your user research is so misleading, you're better off to just listen to the feedback 1:1 and step down from your moral developer high horse.
