Try using the guns that nobody wants to use. You might find some gems.

blame those youtubers who bitched and moaned and have now vanished from d2 for the shit show that is pvp

D2 never should've happened. They should've added on D1.

Boring repetitive team shooting. How original. Check out the November crucible podcast.

Re team shooting. Yesterday the whole opposing team was capping B on fortress, my super was charged and I thought to myself, "finally, things are coming up Fenraft, I'm going to Nova the Shaxx out of these bast*rds and feel like a giant walking amongst men once again!" Except, they shot my nova - because you can do that in D2 of course - and nobody died. Well, except me. So yeah, kudos to the guy who came up with the idea of supers taking longer to charge AND being vulnerable to bullets. In the long litany of great ideas, that one is way up there. Certainly made me feel special.

The sad thing is that due to the Crucible being bad in D2, no one wants to continue playing Destiny 2 for fun. In Destiny 1, the Crucible was a brilliant game activity because it added replayability due to it being a blast and not having these stupid ridiculous changes that Destiny 2 has. I mean what you stay longer in: Destiny 1 or Destiny 2's crucible?

310 k players agree. 8.4 million players moved on.

I laughed when I saw there were only two crucible options at launch. What a joke.. No free for all (favorite game mode from D1). I would like 6v6 back more than anything. Even 8v8 or 10v10! 4v4 across the board was a huge mistake imo.. Makes the whole game too tactical. You have to huddle up with your team and teamshot. If I want tactical I'll play 3v3. Oh wait, that was taken out, lol.

Im one of those filthy casual's that rarely plays crucible, usually only during IB. I only claimed 7 packages from the recent D2 IB. Even from a filthy casual's point of view, D2 sucks majorly compared to D1. Used to be able to kill other guardians with a sticky grenade (solar titan), now grenades are like signal flare, like you attach them to an opponent to let the rest of your team know to kill that guy. Shoulder charge? I would think that a titan in full armor moving at speed would do more damage than a static punch. I charged a warlock with 3 resilience and barely scratched him/her while he/she casually one shot punches my 8 resilience titan. Shoulder charge is only good for erm, getting yourself killed? As for actual game play, well thats as boring as hell. Just grab a 450rpm auto rifle like Uriels and just shoot other guardians with it. There is no strategy, no sniper lanes to watch for, no shot gun wielding guardians waiting to ambush you around a corner, no Vooping, no slide and shotty in your opponents genitals, all of that interesting and dynamic strategic game play is gone. You just run and gun with one weapon. No need to switch weapons at all unless you grab some heavy ammo and go get some kills on guardians on the other side of the map with Colony. Just shoot a guardian dead, reload your weapon, go find another guardian to shoot, or get shot and respawn, rinse and repeat. Looking at the scenery in the crucible maps, is more entertaining than playing PvP in D2.

Time to kill is too slow, using anything else except for a rocket launcher puts you in a disadvantage, supers only come once per match, exotics should be renamed to gimmicks, maps design is terrible that doesn’t reward players that know how to move around the map... This game has so many problems that it makes early access games look like full release titles.

I used to love D1 crucible. Kept me sharp in between DLCs. Now, I have to force myself to play just for the weekly reward. Outside of that, no interest in it. I loved snipers. One of the few games I was good at it.

I'm no casual, I play destiny every day. Destiny one in PVP was full of shot guns and sniper rifles that is it the last two years of its life before destiny 2. they work crutch weapons, easy kill for no skill. I think to prevent a large part of crutch weapon, heavy ammo should be removed from PVP entirely. then let's see your skills and fight

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I did the Iron banner after a long break in D2 just to see if the changes like masterworks has made any difference. Unfortunately not, D2 is not fun. And the list of changes is exactly the same as it was at end o D1. 1. Dedicated servers to get rid of lag 2. Special ammo back to where it was before the latest silly change of making you loose special ammo upon death It is needless to say the rest should be like in D1.

To be honest, I see one major issue with D2 crucible, and that is the weapons territory balance. In D1, you had scouts for the long, pulses for the long down to the mid, hand cannons for the mid into the close, and ARs for the close to the CQC. Everything had an effective territory that it owned, and everything that was competitive did it's job really well. D2 is quite different. Better Devils functions like the hand cannons of D1. Al the others are really relegated to closer ranges. But so are SMGs, side arms, and ARs, meaning almost all of them are outclasses in their own effective ranges. Scouts are essentially the long range option of choice, and other than the Mida or the Veist variants, anything much closer is a death wish. Pulses are now functioning in mid to long, except for the rapid types, which are close to mid. They can't push through the AR flinch due to burst efficiency, and they can't maintain a shot string at range against a scout. And ARs, most notably the 450's, are good quite literally everywhere but the far side of scout range. When you give the most range, least recoil, and most forgiving TTK shot combo to one of the easiest to use and get weapon classes in the game, you end up with nothing more than an AR meta team shot fest. IMO, the primaries need to have a better framework for what works where, and the damages, ranges, and ease of use all need to balance based off of that. As it is, we have too much focus on the less-skilled, easy to get options, and that really invalidates the work and skill of anyone else that tried using a different weapon type in a lot of cases.

no, they had an amazing game until all you call of duty fanboys jumped on the PvP bandwagon and ruined destiny, whining about this gun or super needing a nerd or buff. if you all would've Stfu maybe they wouldn't have -blam!-ed up D2...since let's be honest, they blatantly built around you PvP assholes

You are bad

I think Bungie took the lazy road making all guns the same (boring) to create their version of balance. I'm somewhat ok with that I guess but the ttk is so damn slow unless getting team shot.