Now I'm not gonna make this to long (hopefully). So a common mindset is the "white male" is flawed and we are ridiculed for something we didn't cause. Here are a few things I need to get of my chest. 1. Why do I need to change specifically because of my skin color or other reasons? When someone says "you white men need to stop being racist" they are not correct in saying that. All people need to stop being racist, white people [b]are not[/b] the "root of all evil" or whatever some of you make us out to be. 2. When you are saying these things about white people just think if you changed this on black people or women. The uproar would be [b]immense[/b]. The amount of outcry would be huge because "it's not right to say that about black people." I see a double standard here.
3. Just because my ancestors enslaved people and did terrible things doesn't mean that I am accountable for their actions. I'm a white male but that doesn't mean that I enslave people. Saying that I do those things is comparable to calling black people slaves because that's what their ancestors did.
In the end we are all people and we need to stand together, not dividing us with insults. So I just needed to get this off my chest. Take this as you will and do what you want with this. If I don't get totally shreckt by the community on this one I might do another one.
Edit 1: I have decided that doing another one is an option since this post went over better than I thought. Why we aren't on trending I have no clue but whatever. I'll post a poll later asking what me to talk about next
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3 답변The alt left's constant demonization of white, straight males, as inherently racist, inherently sexist, etc, is pushing people farther "away" from the values they actually care about.
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Man, everyone hates each other. Race, religion, economic status, etc. None of it changes a thing because people just hate for the sake of hating something. Those people desperately need an enemy to hold on to, to fight against or else they feel as though they have nothing left in their tiny little world. Right now, what these children need is a good spanking. There is nothing good coming from all the fighting and accusing that’s going around because all it does is breed more fighting and accusing. I don’t like the trends we see building up steam these days, but not because of who is behind it. It’s because of the idea that there is someone worse than you or better than you. We, as human beings, are the same. We all live, love, and eventually die. Our lives are tragic enough without having all the infighting.
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7 답변I've been talking with another user about her (I'm assuming she's a she) reaction to your post. The quick and easy version is that she says most or the majority of white men are racist, sexist, and abusive to people of color. And then goes on to say, "well, I said most, not all". She paints a dire picture of racism, sexism, abuse, etc that has perpetrated exclusively by white men for awhile now. No exact number was given. People of color, on the other hand, are marginalized victims who have only ever tried to free themselves from the yoke of white men. And that got me thinking. No matter how many times I pointed out the flaw in her argument, she would say that I'm being childish, pathetic, hypocritical, and contradictory. She refused to define the actual percentage of white men who do this or have done it, instead saying most, many, or the majority. And in doing that, threw countless millions under the bus that she's never met and never will. Millions that have lived and are living their lives that have done good and treated others with respect. Millions that believed and do believe in live and let live. Millions who fought for this country so that others might be free. And now here's some truth. If I were to write a post saying that "the majority of black men are criminals" or "the majority of Hispanic men are sexist" or "the majority of Asian men are racist" I would be banned. The post would be banned and rightly so. But there's a double standard when it comes to the easy target of "white men". Nobody bats an eyelash when most white men are dubbed derogatory statements. It is overt racism and it is ignored. And that is what I call a double standard. Do as I say, not as I do. "I can call you names, but don't dare say anything negative about me." "I'm a person of color so I get free reign to say and do whatever I want, but your white and need to sit down and shut up. Your kind has had your day, it's our turn now." That's not how it works. If a group of people is striving for alleged equality, you don't achieve that equality and then use it as a platform to do to others what was done to you. Because then you're no different than the people you were fighting against. Two wrongs don't make a right.
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74 답변작성자: Sainyule 1/9/2018 5:48:22 AMHere's the thing about the whole "I'm a white nationalist because the white man is ridiculed too often!" is just a flawed reasoning. There are people out there losing their jobs and their lives put there from actual ridicule, racism, and oppression, but god forbid a woman say "those damn white men, smh" on twitter. You [i]see[/i] now what women and people of color and different religions deal with now, and it doesn't feel good. For years African Americans were the butt of every white guy joke. For years African Americans would be ridiculed and treated poorly for their race. How many African Americans have simply gone to a resturant to over hear a white person call them the N word and wish they would all die? How many of them have been accused for being on welfare and that mocked for needing assistance? How many have been discredited and not trusted because they're skin color? The same goes with women, immigrants, Muslims, Asians, [i]literally everyone.[/i] So they stood up for themselves. Said it wasn't funny anymore, that your actions were uncool and needed to be fixed, and now it's time for the white man to be the butt of the joke. What happened next? White men became nationalists, supremacists, and start playing the victim card every time. Now, not every white man goes out and murders a girl for dumping them or rejecting them. Not every white man shoots up school, not every white man is racist, but a good many are and it's just terrible. So many white men have argued and treated people like shit because of their race. Its like a lot of them lack social skills. Just look at the memes of white guys being...well, white. It's repulsive, come on. Case in point, you didn't have to become a white nationalist to cope with the changing times. You should have been telling white dudes to shut up about friend zones, to stop harassing women, to stop being so racist, to stop treating people wrong because of their gender or culture. Stand up for people who are getting treated like shit instead of looking at someone who is black and trying to support their family and saying "I pay for that!" There are plenty of white men on welfare as well. Why are they not getting the same treatment? [quote] 1. Why do I need to change specifically because of my skin color or other reasons? When someone says "you white men need to stop being racist" they are not correct in saying that. All people need to stop being racist, white people [b]are not[/b] the "root of all evil" or whatever some of you make us out to be.[/quote] They say this because when it comes to anything, most of the time white men are the ones shouting the N word, calling muslims Sand N****rs, and women bitches because they aren't getting their way, or are proven wrong in something simple like a debate. This isn't a time to argue semantics. Yes, all people need to stop being racist, but how does becoming a white nationalist stop that? Racism is the oppression of a race because they believe they are more superior. White men are pretty renown for this since we pretty much had a war about it, and civil rights movements in this country. Yes, Africans were enslaving their people before hand, but that's not the point about it. Many white men are oppressing and treating people who are different from them badly because they're different. And it only gets worse. Many white men continue to oppress people, and instead of someone who isn't like them speaking up, they're afraid they're going to get called "White knights" or "n****r lovers." You're too busy arguing semantics against the victims, and blaming the victims for things that happen to them. Its not [i]all[/i] white men, it's [i]most[/i] white men. People are being harassed, losing their jobs, and killed and you want to argue semantics. So case in point, this isn't a time to argue semantics. This is a time to stand up for people. Just because some white girl on Twitter says "typical white men, always in my DMs" you do your best to not be an ads in her DMs. Not argue "well I'm a white man and I'm not in your DMs, not [i]all[/i] white men." [quote]2. When you are saying these things about white people just think if you changed this on black people or women. The uproar would be [b]immense[/b]. The amount of outcry would be huge because "it's not right to say that about black people." I see a double standard here. [/quote] This is odd for you to state. You ask them to self reflect on themselves but do not give white men the same criticism for their behavior. That right there is a double standard. That anyone who isn't white needs to reflect on their statements if that's okay or not, but when a white man says something racist it's "you guys are too sensitive!" It's just a mess of double standards, and instead of reflecting on their behavior, many white men project it to "what about [i]your[/i] behavior!" This projection is frustrating, since all we say is "silly white boys" and many white men try to compare that with being told "go back to Africa you n****r! Nobody wants u, I'd shoot u myself! Get off welfare!" Those two are not equal in intensity, but when asked for respect it's "I know I'm an asshole and I'm proud of it!" Why is it okay to call black people sensitive when a white man drops a hard R, but when a white man is made fun of for his obscene behavior it's unfair and a double standard? This needs to be addressed. [quote]3. Just because my ancestors enslaved people and did terrible things doesn't mean that I am accountable for their actions. I'm a white male but that doesn't mean that I enslave people. Saying that I do those things is comparable to calling black people slaves because that's what their ancestors did. [/quote] This argument that white men need to repay the black community for their ancestor's past behavior is an argument that has long been over with. It may come up but even black people call out black people for this. So there's not much I, nor others can elaborate on this. Most of the time it's passed off as a joke in a silly meme, or just a random shitty argument, and this argument can easily be addressed by saying you're not accountable for your ancestor's actions. That you are aware what they did was wrong and obscene. [quote]In the end we are all people and we need to stand together, not dividing us with insults.[/quote] This is what people of many races have been saying all the time. It has been said by white men, black men, Asian women, muslims, and more. That we need to come together, but every side has people in it that just want to tear people apart and destroy the peace that people want. You can't say you want people to come together, and then argue semantics when people are being treated like trash. Most of the time the victim isn't the white guy. Most of the anti-white guy behavior comes from retaliation against white men. Women are tired of their inbox filled with calling them a bitch. Black people are tired of white men calling them slurs and shit talking them because of their skin color, transgender, homosexuals, muslims, so many people just ask for some respect, and these white men are not doing so, and instead of [i]you[/i] standing up for people who are being treated poorly by these white guys, you want to argue their sentence structure. Do you not understand how wrong that is? Why is sentence structure so important that someone who is dealing with racism, oppression, and more can wait? Nothing. So there. The moment you can get over proper sentence structure, is the moment you become a better person. You are not the white guy that a girl made fun of, that a black guy said was "So white." You are someone looking to better the world and stand up for inequality.
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3 답변I was called a straight white male, shit was cash yo. No all joking aside these people are a very special kind of evil. They're racists themselves, they're pulling reverse racism in the highest order. It's pure evil honestly couldn't think of it any other way. Though one of my gay friends was posting on FB that he was scared and no longer felt safe under trump like he's going to put them in concentration camps (LOL) I told him to calm down and Trump won't do anything he and everyone will be fine. "Yeah it's fine for you, you're a straight white male." What? since when has that given me a leg up in my life. These people are also a special kind of stupid.
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4 답변Sweeping things under the rug rather than learning from it just ensures that the stereotype is perpetuated, rather than stopped. History hasn't really been kind to white people after all that imperialism and colonialism, and it's a shame. However, sweeping all that history away from view ensures that the stereotype will continue on. Look at Germany. They understood that [url=http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url] were one of the worst points in their country's (and the world) history, and that any and every [url=http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url] sympathizer or supporter by proxy were despicable people. They learned from their history, and embraced that it's a learning lesson to NOT commit another atrocity like that. No one calls all Germans as a bunch of [url=http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url]. They embraced their history and used their history as a lesson for others, rather than sweeping it away and pretending that it doesn't exist, or that their ancestors were in no part, a reason for that.
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5 답변Open a history book, and try and define the "white" race. This will be the beginning of a path to properly see the world outside the "white" bubble you currently view it through. You will find there is no clear definition based on what timeframe of American history you study. "White" vs others has always been a us vs them game to continue to support institutionalized racism. One wasn't considered "white" for example if immigrating from Ireland. Lol... You are racist, as a matter of being born in a country that never resolved it's original sin of slavery, and people still today suffer the impacts it caused. Sure, you personally didn't enslave anyone, but your entire life has benefitted from it. Until the black community in the US that continues to face daily racism issues can manage to recover the lost labor/wealth stolen from them, we will not be able to get to that tolerant world you wish for. It sucks having to take responsibility for the past when you didn't cause the issue to start with. But standing in the way shouting at those less fortunate by random chance of birth, well, it's not helping unfortunately. Learn to listen, and to study history appropriately. Keep in mind the victors write it and sometimes try to erase their problems, while casting blame to the side that lost. Doing so will teach you a lot about the USA, and how to keep working towards the better future the founders saw possible. We are eager for you to wake up from your bubble dream and join the rest of us in reality.
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1 답변작성자: Daedalus 1/10/2018 3:24:00 PMFood For Thought - Go try getting a Job at a bank if you are a white straight male. Then take a look at your competition. Black-male or female (or LGBT), LGBT from any other race, Tell me which one gets the job ? (85% of the time the banks will choose someone other than the white person.) and for the record. I am not white.
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4 답변Everything the OP posted is true. There is only one demographic under more persecution today. The straight white Christian male.
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Look, I think a lot of us white guys feel that way occasionally. The thing is, we are like Canada, we are safe to -blam!- with because we can take a joke and we do not need to get up folks shit over it. Just like it is a minority of the white males/white people that act that way, it is a minority of the people in other races that feel this way about white folks. It just seems like a larger number because of the media and its need to constantly stir the pot and create a shit stew to report on. Go live your life and do the right thing always and you will have few regrets, cause honestly, it has never been a person's skin color or gender, it has always been the content of their character that matters and if they are willing to stand at your side when shit hits the fan.
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9 답변I understand your position. I try to avoid hasty generalizations like the ones you mentioned, as it would be hypocritical of me as a black man to paint all white people with the same broad brush that was used on minorities. I always tell young people to never include the phrase "you [name of ethnic/religious demographic]" in a discussion, as it is likely to have someone misinterpret your statement. However, like it or not, you benefit from racist policies put into place decades or centuries ago. The fault does not lie with you and those like you, but the wounds of racism are slow and difficult to heal. Not only that, it seems that these wounds are not allowed to heal, as the slightest thing can open it to bleed anew. The best thing we can do is follow the Golden Rule: treat others as you yourself want to be treated. Eventually, we will see others as young children do: as people who are only different in appearance and gender.
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1 답변Food for thought. The population of the United States is above 300 million people. Of that, 31% or roughly 93 million are white males. I have been told that a majority of white men are racist, homophobic, islamophobic, sexist, Etc. For the sake of argument we will say that a majority equals 51%. If that is the case, then roughly 47,430,000 white men fall into this category. Wow, that sure is an awful lot.
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작성자: Nebulrike 1/9/2018 8:57:17 PM1st things first,watch "Im Not Racist" by Joyner Lucas,all of it [quote]Now I'm not gonna make this to long (hopefully). So a common mindset is the "white male" is flawed and we are ridiculed for something we didn't cause. Here are a few things I need to get of my chest. 1. Why do I need to change specifically because of my skin color or other reasons? When someone says "you white men need to stop being racist" they are not correct in saying that. All people need to stop being racist, white people [b]are not[/b] the "root of all evil" or whatever some of you make us out to be. 2. When you are saying these things about white people just think if you changed this on black people or women. The uproar would be [b]immense[/b]. The amount of outcry would be huge because "it's not right to say that about black people." I see a double standard here. 3. Just because my ancestors enslaved people and did terrible things doesn't mean that I am accountable for their actions. I'm a white male but that doesn't mean that I enslave people. Saying that I do those things is comparable to calling black people slaves because that's what their ancestors did. In the end we are all people and we need to stand together, not dividing us with insults. So I just needed to get this off my chest. Take this as you will and do what you want with this. If I don't get totally shreckt by the community on this one I might do another one.[/quote] My two cents. Im frienda with most people in my classes,I get along well. But in terms of racism around teens (I have no major input on adults) its def evident around more than a few. For example,no one ever calls someone a "cracker" because no one gives a damn about the word. But I know a good few people who will say the N word with a hard R. Why? As a joke,and usually,it is. Buy why? Its like people aren't actually racist,but get some type of feeling from saying a "forbidden word" no black dude cares enough to say it,no asian or mexican dude cares enough to say it,its always a white dude who have it in their arsenal of jokes. You are right overall,but remember,stereotypes all started with some amount of truth in them. I have plenty friends of plenty races. There's a little stereotype in all of them as a whole. [spoiler]this is my experience and in no way what I believe for all people[/spoiler]
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Majority of white people are not racist. I wouldn't get mad about it op. Usually, minorities just like playing the victim card because they had a bad day or a few racists said something to them so now there is a epidemic. Just lay back chill out and enjoy your life. If you know you aren't racist don't worry about it. No making the racial stereotype joke isn't racist as long as you don't believe in it.
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작성자: Cultmeister 1/10/2018 12:56:47 AMI don’t feel it’s unfair to claim that ‘straight white males’ have become more of an excuse for minority groups to be angry recently, rather than a reason. The problem arises when issues turn into mentalities, when ‘white people not allowing black people to sit at the front of the bus’ turns into ‘there are more white people than black people in company boards across America because the white people are being racist’. Once you get into the oppressor/oppressed mentality you will constantly be blaming the same people for ‘oppressing’ you whether they are or they aren’t, even to the point that you start claiming that the racism can be subliminal, that you don’t know how you’re thinking. I’m not saying it’s all bullshit, but this is 2017. The west regularly has black, Homosexual and female people in positions of power, and is starting to have disabled and other minority groups in minor positions of power. We are going the right way for diversity. We should chill tf out about it.
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14 답변작성자: Nix 1/8/2018 11:41:46 PMI've noticed in recent years young white men are becoming some of the biggest "professional victims" in society today, you're not all racist, we know that, but stop pretending we don't.
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I hear these arguments far more from those attempting to justify their actions than I have from anyone attempting to cast blame. It seems like there is a huge victim mentality involved, which is often the case with those seeking to avoid any sort of self reflection.
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작성자: Sportmanteau 1/9/2018 11:37:37 PMAgreed. White people were slaves as well down in black-majority areas of the world. Back then, racism was just considered natural. I'm a white guy, and I have nothing against women, black people or people who identify with the LGBT community, I'm just wondering as to why we're being called out for everything. You see all these people (white and black) who demonized us on Twitter, Facebook, etc. When white people do it, it's actually pretty funny because they're hurting themselves by saying this. But what really ticks me off is that when a black person says something that is incredibly racist, for instance, "imma 'bout to -blam!- all these white bitches and leave. Y'all think I'm playing." (Yes I'm quoting what this guy said). And that's not even the worst thing That I've heard about us. What I'm trying to say is that we don't have as much trouble getting a job (I've seen black people have their jobs refused just because of their skin color, it's incredibly wrong and needs to stop), or making income. But when it comes to us trying to voice facts or try to be nice, we are very often, very quickly demonized and labeled as racist. Socially, we are discriminated against. I'm not even sure why some white people look down on black people or vice versa, that shit happened generations ago. Why can't we let it go and move on? Racism and hate and discrimination are literally bad for your health, the more we indulge in this, the more unhealthy we'll get. (For those of you who don't know, anger and prejudice rise your blood level and heart beat when thought about, and if thought about consistently enough, will negatively effect your blood pressure and such).