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작성자: Justin
11/21/2017 10:45:29 PM
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Lets be real. Destiny 2 is beyond saving at this point
Bungie can drop as many DLC’s as they want but it wont fix that fact that Destiny 2 should have extended on the success that was Destiny “Age of Triumph.”
Destiny 2 shouldnt have been a new starting point for the Destiny franchise. It should have brought forward the key aspects that made Destiny 2 a destiny game
Loot, Heroic modifiers, loot, random roles, powerful exotics, loot, end game actually mattering, loot again
Destiny 2 just doesnt have the spark Destiny 1 had which is why I just find it disappointing. DLCs shouldnt be what is fixing Destiny. Its like we’re paying for a hotfix. Who even complained about the heroic strike playlist? Honestly.
Destiny 2, comparing to the end of Destiny 1’s lifespan, is a damn joke. Seeing how Bungie wont fix, add, or remove things the community is asking of them (such as removing the token system, or adding an actual endgame) this game is beyond saving
Destiny 1 had the excuse of “oh, the game will get better overtime thanks to DLCs” but the same case cant be made for D2. D2 should have been great from the very start.
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작성자: Avelithe 12/3/2017 8:16:13 PMThis is literally the first time I'm [i]not[/i] excited for the upcoming Destiny 2 DLC. This is coming from a diehard fan that enjoyed Destiny collectibles over the past three years; shamelessly wrote Destiny fanfics, and hell, I would some times create fan art based on the game because I was a [u]damn[/u] [u]proud[/u] [u]geek[/u] and I wasn't afraid to show it. And honestly, with the way I feel about where this game is going, my lack of enthusiasm for this game is [i]depressing[/i]. I get on once a week at best because my husband nags about needing to raise our points in our dying clan. Not that it matters, since I think that reset, so no point. I have more fun and satisfaction playing Warframe. Problem is, I want to[i] love[/i] the Destiny universe. I want to [i]care[/i] about it. I invested so much into this game that I want to know what happens next, but... I think right now I just love the [i]idea[/i] of the game. Bungie, Destiny 2 is boring. There is no incentive to play. I don't [i]feel[/i] like a badass space warrior. I really only feel like a space cop with springs on my feet. Your cutscenes are cool, I guess. D2's story is better than some of the other drivel you guys slammed together at such short notice in D1 (The Dark Below was just awful, but I can say that the later DLCs improved a lot). The mods, the dumbed down "class trees" y'all made, and the boring weapons in D2 need a [i]lot[/i] of TLC. Destiny used to be a game I couldn't wait to get back to every single day. But now? I'm not feelin' it. You have something missing in this game, and you need to figure it out if you want to keep a fan base. I used to be in that crowd... now I just look at my Mega Bloks Fallen Walker with slight disdain, but at least I had more satisfaction getting that put together than anything I've done recently in Destiny 2. I wrote this because this is something I was very passionate about. I'm not ashamed of my passion, but I am very ashamed at what Bungie is doing to their game. I don't know if it's beyond saving yet, but they certainly don't have a grasp on this game as well as they think they do.
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I just think the whole game is lazy , they make a big deal about reset , the towers gone, all your loot is gone, then instead of coming up with all new exotics with all new perks they just give us back all the same weapons and armour they just erased going from D1 to D2
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25 답변Yet another person failing to understand that comparing D2 a couple of months into it's existence to D1 at the end of 3 years of editing, tweaking, DLC's, and updates is ignorant.
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Its gonna need a HUGE TTK like update. other than that, yeah dissapoints me to think back when i played d1 beta. i thought this game would consume me for years to come. (SOOOOOO MUCH POTENTIAL JUST GOING TO WASTE.) Turns out it was only 3 years.
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Sigh, I would agree but... 3 games in recent memory say otherwise IF Bungie realizes their mistakes soon enough. I think we shall see by the Rasputin DLC. (BTW for reference the 3 games are) Destiny 1 Dialbo 3 Guild Wars 2
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Not beyond saving. Updates and edits and DLC can completely change a game. Has happened before, will happen again. Might happen here, might not. But drowning the baby in the bathtub because it isn't as great as the parent is a quick way to never see it grow up to greatness.
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1 답변작성자: Crunchyblack 11/24/2017 8:45:53 AMIts crazy but the whole D2 experience really reminds me of the MMORPG golden age, right before it fizzled out and died. All the developers were trying to do it all and appeal to the largest market possible. All the sequels were awful due to it, with pvp being the primary culprit for a piss poor pve experience. By the time they figure out the fan base is built on the pve mechanics that made the IP great in the first place, too much money wasted, not enough to revert the game back to what made the original great. The ONLY developer ive ever seen rebound a horrible launch based on poor development choices is blizzard with diablo 3. They had to piss off a very vocal minority to do it. It was worth it in the long run and the game ended up fantastic. Will Bungie redevelop the pve aspect and perk system to be something interesting? It wont make them any money immediately but would probably turn their destiny IP into something worth making a D3. Im not familiar with Bungie as a pc gamer, and ive been through this type of thing more times than i can count with mmorpgs....it typically doesnt end well for the IP and developer. If bungie was smart, and REALLY wanted a streamer friendly esport pvp game...theyd have made a stand alone pvp based game like overwatch.
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2 답변Yep they should forget it ever existed and continue support for D1... Even a complete remastered version of D1 ??? Id buy that ... Long live D1 🤘
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1 답변Walked into bestbuy for BF sale about 2 hours after they opened and they had boxes of untouched copies of Destiny 2 right by the door for 27 dollars. I just walked by a laughed.
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It isn't "beyond saving". However; to save it, it would need a major overhaul of almost all the systems in the game. this would lead to the same situation that D1 ended: you change one thing, other 7 break. "Saving" D2 would mess the entire code of the game first because it would be an "emergency" job, and second because it would be a rewrite of the majority of the code. That without mentioning the longer load times and glitches that would be created and never fixed. The same way that the glitches that exist to this very day on D1 weren't fixed.
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1 답변작성자: Darth Newbieous 11/23/2017 10:21:10 PMI don’t believe it’s beyond saving, but the current state of the game (tokens, reoccurring drops) does not feel rewarding, challenging or interesting. I feel like the token system was a bad change for “vendors” (which are more like casino slot machines) just make players more frustrated. And why oh why did they make our once powerful guardians so impotent? And pvp has become mostly a game of corners and team shooting, there is always a meta but it seems more focused on a handful of guns with very little variety now. Personally always run crucible matches with guns other than last hope, Uriel’s and mida, there are other good weapons out there kids. 😬 Happy Holidays all 👍🏻
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2 답변Can’t believe someone signed off on releasing Destiny 2. When I played the beta I had this concern looming in the back of my mind but I kept telling myself not to worry they couldn’t POSSIBLY screw this up. Turns out they definitely can and have screwed this up. As a HUGE fan on D1, I basically can’t force myself to play this game anymore. Honestly if I had never played D1 I don’t think I would be as turned off by the game. I agree that I don’t think they can change enough things to make me really get into this game. I’m hoping for the best but it doesn’t look good at this point.
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4 답변작성자: Senor Crouch 11/23/2017 1:02:01 AMI honestly don't know what they were thinking by changing up the core gameplay mechanics so drastically. By the end of D1, things felt really good. Like really really good. With that as a blueprint, I don't know why they drove the car so far off that path. I just don't get it. Bungie takes success and abandons it for questionable choices. Halo to Destiny 1. Destiny The Taken King to Destiny 2. It is a strange, strange trend that I don't understand. -They change Primary/Special/Heavy to Kenetic/Energy/Heavy? Why? It is annoying. -They come up with a brilliant mod system to replace random rolls, but instead half ass it and couple it with fixed rolls? Why? -They nerf Super and Ability cooldowns to Trickle levels? Why? -They nerf the function of "Energy" to the point where it doesn't even matter any more if you have Void, Solar, or Arc. Why? -They remove the Quests and Bounties page of your inventory so that QUESTS STAY STUCK IN MY HEAVY WEAPONS SLOTS! Why in the hell would you do that? You know how infuriating it is to have a "Complete Prestige Raid" quest item stuck in my weapon's slot? Oh sure I can delete it but then I get the first part of that quest stuck in my damn inventory again! Annoying! -They change the subclass tree so that there are limited options? Why? -Strike specific loot, Prison of Elders, D1 Nightfalls, Archon's Forge? Why? There is an odd pattern here. In some respects this is an alternate iteration of Destiny 1's launch, even though we have the history of Destiny 1's launch under our belt. And if that is the case then D2's Curse of Osiris/Dark Below will come out with no quality of life changes. D2's ???/House of Wolves will come out with some sort of Prison of Elders-like new mechanic. The community will be in an uproar cause "why would you bring in more stuff when you haven't even addressed all these other things?" And finally D2's year 2 will begin with ???/The Taken King where finally we will see a Destiny 2 that should have been from the beginning. I wonder if the Vex ever get frustrated seeing different iterations of similar events over the years?
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2 답변Not saying I disagree, but... Saying "making an actual endgame" and expecting it to come after 2 months is ridiculous. Likely we won't see real improvements until next fall. So take a break and come back then.
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Why are you comparing launch of D2 to three years of content for D1? This will be Bungie's 4th year in this venture, be patient. Three years isn't enough time to learn from mistakes. Sharing notes for three years WASN'T an option. There simply was not enough data. To expect the sequel to a three year old game to improve, build upon, and be better than the original is insanity. We are obligated to wait upwards of a year for this sequel to be lined out. I'm sure once we've spent about another $100-$150 dollars, Bungie will realize their mistake and finally issue an update reinstating many of the old Destiny 1 concepts and building upon them like they should have done in the first place. Be patient. May the power of friendship and cosmetics be with you
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The only hope to make this game something great is the big September expansion, what it turns out to be. Until then, we will have to tolerate how the game is for the most part. Hopefully it d9es the game justice.
