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9/18/2017 3:15:43 AM
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Destiny 2 - Worse than D1 - RNG in all the wrong places!

* Subclass Quests - RNG * Strikes - RNG * Crucible modes - RNG * Light Level - RNG * Mods - RNG * Faction gear - RNG * Vendors - RNG * Raid rewards - RNG * Trials rewards - RNG * Public Event rewards - RNG * Clan rewards - RNG * Shaders - RNG * Sparrows, ships, and ghosts - RNG from Eververse (and no more drops from raids, events, etc) * Ammo - RNG (and yellow bars dont always drop heavy!) * Weapons - STATIC ROLLS, no more rerolling to customize perks * Skill trees - STATIC TREES, no more mixing skills to customize playstyle * Infusion - STATIC 1:1 INFUSIONS, no more infusing any primary into any primary to customize playstyle, you get locked into using whatever weapons are highest light. So even if you prefer scout rifles, you'll probably get stuck with a useless sidearm * Clan - STATIC EXPERIENCE BAR, only 10,000 xp a week regardless of clan size. Does not scale. Large clans fill this in a few hours and get bored, small clans struggle all week * Perks - NO RNG PERKS - Luck in the chamber and similar perks have all been nerfed right out of the game and replaced with useless things instead * Xur - NO EXOTIC ENGRAMS - Xur now only sells starter/trash gear for a few shards. No more engrams, no more coins, no more weapon bundles, no more AMMO SYNTHS * Raid - NO RAID PERKS/LACK OF DROPS - Remember when raid gear helped you do better in raids with specific perks? NERFED. All these Calus coins from beating checkpoints and opening the locked chests, I should be able to at least buy cosmetic raid gear right? NOPE- SLOT MACHINE. Overall Destiny 2 is a much worse, heavily nerfed version of Destiny 1 based on these facts that are clear to anyone. Poor design choices all around. All the wrong things are RNG. 99,999 glimmer isnt enough when you need to blow 300,000 to get one RNG kinetic mod from the gunsmith to raise your light level. Shaders should be single use, but RE-USABLE - as in able to unequip them and apply them to a new piece of gear. Vendors should actually SELL STUFF, not just be casino slot machines all over. Strikes and crucible modes should be manually selectable, not RNG everytime. Clans need rework, as other than 4 clan engrams a week, theres not any other point to them, not even clan based pvp modes or anything. Destiny 2's biggest problem besides RNG is lack of content. Once you get your 4 clan engrams, beat trials and the raid, theres nothing left to do all week besides grind boring public events. Lost Sectors arent the "mini-raids" we were promised. Patrol and high value targets are unrewarding. Strike playlist isnt rewarding at all, and crucible is too random. No more grinding legendary engrams to manually boost light level, as all normal purples drop 10 light levels lower than what you need to even break even! No more grinding for god roll guns. No more grinding for OP exotics. No more leveling up gear. No more grind at all really, and the grind was a vital part of D1. Hopefully Destiny 3 will be the game Luke Smith promised Destiny 1 to be, as the first 2 games certainly fell very short. Perhaps a drastic change in leadership over at Bungie is necessary to improve this franchise. TLDR - Destiny 2 nerfed the best parts of D1 and replaced them with bad RNG designs and lack of content

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  • Too sleepy to criticize this long winded post, just do research on the reasons why Bungie made these design choices before your decided this is the opinion you're going to stick with.

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    • Yeah they got really lazy with the exotics, half of them are from D1 😂😂

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    • I agree with the synth and mixing our subclasses

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    • Tfw People actually whine about acquisition of subclass quests

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    • Here we have it guys, it’s official, destiny’s biggest cry baby!

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      • I agree with you. It was fun grinding the first week but boring now. Most exotics have trash perks.

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        • As soon as I find a primary submachine gun, my top setup will be a submachine gun and dual grenade launchers. Can you imagine if I showed up to the Iron Banner with that? Saladin would just shake his head and tell me to hit the showers.

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        • 100,000 Xp or week not 10,000 lol

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        • 작성자: MortyOfC137 9/19/2017 12:30:25 AM
          Think about all the people that worked on this game. Animators, audio engineers, designers, programmers, level editors and so much more. They could be charging a lot more for what you get, and yes DLC costs are fair. This to ME this is insulting to the devs. They put a lot of work and passion into creating a game we can all enjoy. So I just wanted to provide a different perspective for everyone. Video games require a lot of time and energy by multiple people, hundreds even, they don't just make themselves. So before you go on complaining about a product think about what it takes to create said product. **Just to be transparent I have only played the Destiny 2 Beta on PS4 and PC**

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          • You say there is a lack of content yet you then follow up by saying if you get all your clan xp, if you beat trials, and if you beat the raid, then your done. Sure that might be true but number 1, most people hate crucible much less trials and aside from that, most people cant get the 7 wins for the engram. If your in a small clan then itll take you all week to grind out stuff. Also, you realize only like 2% of people have beaten the raid which means the other 98% havent, and thats a rather big percentage for so many people not having anything to do. But in the off chance that you are part of the elite 1% that finish everything every week, you still have 2 other characters to run. Either play a different game or actually complain about something that is relavent to more than the top 1% of players. Have a good day.

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            • Idk D1 had some bad rng and all, but in the end I pulled through and actually was able to acquire the things I needed/wanted in game. D2, however, is completely ridiculous and impossible at times.

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            • *yawn*

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            • think you could whine anymore? want everything handed to you do you? thats sad. I've made 4 characters had them all at 275+ rng, ultimately it can be frustrating. but im notparticularly worried about it. you are jsut bitching and moaning for no good reason about rng. skill trees are fine. xur is fine. hes been here 1 -blam!-ing time... get a grip. he didnt have much of anything first time in D1... im sure you meant 100k xp bar for clans, but in case you didnt there ya go. because yeah lets rush absolutely everything and unlock everything first day right... wtf... those rng perks were removed because all you scrubby ass players kept calling for nerfs. so now each gun is tailor made so that each weapon can be buffed/nerfed instead of screwing one class of gubs up because of a perk or two... seriously dude... you are just crying here. (ties with the weapons rerolling) ammo... you have problems with ammo... seriously... i find heavy ammo everywhere... I hoep they dont bring ammo synths into D2 or any ammo synths for that matter. cause lets take the fun out of gaming and jsut hand you easy mode... Infusion... works fine for me. I find plenty of gun types I need while I am grinding and having fun and not sitting in forums crying... leave infusion the way it is. raid? havent been in too far yet. but still sounds like you are calling for easy mode instead fop haing to have skill xD wtf sounds like to me overall, that you wanted everything handed to you in easy mode format. you dont wanna grind, have fun, or play endgame cause its boring, then this kind of game is not for you. move along child.

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              • Destiny 2 is fantastic. And no weapon rolls is one of the best things to happen to this game.

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                • Clearly never played Destiny if you think RNG is new.

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                • What happened to armor ornaments, strike specific loot and strike scoring? Bungie have gone backwards with D2 imo. Theres really nothing worth grinding for. Farming heroic events for exotic engrams to keep getting the exact same exotics its just not fun at all.

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                • Have to disagree with this one

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                  • 작성자: Lordsa Jar-Jar 9/19/2017 5:21:42 AM
                    What's up with that Destiny poll a week ago with everyone voting on how D2 was significantly better than D1? Metacritic seems to be split with user reviews and critic's, so who do you trust? I know from personal experience critics never see the whole picture, always going into details that really don't matter.

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                  • Agreed with 99 percent of this post

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                  • It doesnt matter cause youre still gonna play it regardless

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                  • That's an awful lot of "RNG". Should a lot of that stuff BE random? That's kinda the point, isn't it? If the game gave you everything on a silver platter and you knew exactly how to get everything you wanted, would the game still be fun? Some of your points are also blatantly wrong. There's only a few points I think are actually valid. The lack of content for example - In D1, I was hooked and played as much as I could for months. Here, I'm in week 2 and I'm already bored. Doing strikes doesn't feel anywhere near as fun anymore, and I think it's really stupid that they make you wait for a new random fireteam after every single match. WTF is that about? The lack of vendors (with RNG weapon rolls - see, we need more RNG). That was one of the things that kept me coming back and farming strikes and upgrade materials. I liked checking all the vendors to see if I could find a weapon roll that looked interesting, then level that weapon up, max it out and give it a good test run. That's gone now. Now you just get standard weapon rolls and they're already leveled up to begin with. If anything, taking the RNG out has made that side of things more boring. I think you spend too much time complaining. Maybe go outside for a while, and check out what the sun feels like on your skin? Or just go back to D1.

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                  • I'm sorry but what's rng?

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                    • Trying to get faction armor is a bitch.

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                    • I can honestly say I have zero clue why the raid is even happening. Like, we didn't even fight the actual emperor.

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