Let's be honest...people who leave for good don't post about it. People who post about their sadness always come back.

Everyone I talk to about the direction D2 is going in has had the same feedback from the D2 beta: disappointing. Their push to make PVP more competitive at the cost of PVE has really destroyed any incentive MOST people have for playing the game. The average Destiny player was a PVE oriented player, that played PVP occasionally - and we played it for the fun, fast-paced, space magic action in both modes, not for an ultra-competitive halo-like experience. In fact, Halo had Double-Exp weekend this weekend if you didn't notice. Mythic Shotty-Snipes, where we got to use the Mythic versions of the snipers and shotguns. Linda's Norfang was an instant OHK no matter where you hit your opponent, and the shotgun boosted your speed so that even with OHK snipers, you could still maneuver and get to within shotgunning range. Me and my clan mates had a blast! One of my members, who DID buy RoI and moved on with Y3 of the game, even commented that this was the fun kind of gameplay that Bungie is terrified about! And he was absolutely right! While it was frustrating at times to have a team set up to spawn-snipe you, we had a blast in most other matches whether we won or lost. And that is ultimately why we play the game - [b]to have fun. [/b] In Y1 of Destiny, PVE was fun, PVP was fun, and the game never left my disc drive. In Y2 of Destiny, they started doing things to change the nature of the game, and I don't believe that these changes were for the better. The only thing that keeps me around now is that I'm interested in seeing how all these changes pan out. On paper at least, its looking like D2 is going to be a disappointing flop. And I certainly hope that it is, mainly because the only thing that will derail Bungie from the course they are currently on is if the game DOES flop and it forces them to correct their coarse and make the game more like the game most of us came to love. If not, I guess Activision will have both Destiny AND CoD to bank on in the shooter department.

I agree dude. This game isnt the Destiny I fell in love with 3 years ago.

Bungie knew what Activision was all about and could have crowd funded Founders were stabbing founders in the back over money. You dont hire behavioral scientists for story and art direction you hire them to make skinner boxes.

I watched your video man. Didn't really like it sorry. It was too bitter and angry for my tastes. I'd rather watch videos like this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8HVWitAW-Qg

I agree... that was a rant, but it wasn't done very well. I'm not buying D2 either... but not because of anything you even said. I prefer customization and a 2-path skill tree is really the downfall for me. No longer will we have ways to mold our individual play style. Now we'll have a ton of the same running around. Also... 2 primaries feel so weak, even if they tripled the amount of power drops, I hate 2 primaries. Doesn't make sense... and even separating kinetic and energy is a huge wtf to me. Finally 4v4.. worst ever decision. They should be expanding to 8v8.... not dwindling to 4v4 crap.

Bungie willingly partnered with Activision. Activision is not their boss, its their partner. Giving Bungie a pass on this is foolish. I agree with your assertions about the gameplay and the lack of it moving forward, but i do not agree with your suggestion that Bungie is not to blame. They made this bed, now they have to lie in it.

Good on you. Cancel and hopefully they fix things (maybe) and buy in cheap with everything stacked in a GOTY edition.

That's okay. I preordered the sh#t out of it. I even preordered the expansions. I let the hate flow past my windswept locks because I know I will play the sh#t out of it. To recap. Preordered the sh#t. Will play the Sh#t. Can't be worse than Doom,Mass Effect,or Overwatch. Spending money on those three was the real tragedy. I have chosen the Destiny franchise as "my" game for however long it lasts,and regardless of all the whining around here I find that no stranger than you WoW people out there.

I like this video https://youtu.be/xoy5ng4egV4. Specifically the part about constrictive criticism. If it weren't for players like me and the guy in the video there would only people over hyping the game and bungie wouldn't grow or learn from their mistakes(if they are mistakes). Other companies would try pulling the same crap bungie does. Hell its already happening. Its always funny seeing fanboys attack me when I don't have something positive to say about the game.

This guy's vids are pretty funny, but in the end he's just trying to copy batmandobbins. Destiny bashing gets views. Being forcefully judgmental of every little thing is just as annoying as someone who praises the game unconditionally.

Decided to pre-order after beta as did most of friends list who play D1. There will be cancellations and new pre-orders. Proof in final player population.

That guy needs to chill. He also needs to get informed before making a negative review. 1. Gear makes Charge rates go faster: which he states he would be surprised if Bungie implemented. It's been known for months! 2. The plot. He wasn't even paying attention to the cutscene, I guess. [b]Someone[/b] disabled the sensors from the inside; they just had noticed it. 3. The plot again. He forgets that warp holes are a thing. The cabal ships weren't in plain sight. (He's practically copying Darkside with the plot) 4. 4 minutes of the f word stating anyone who disagrees with him is lying to themselves 5. He claims that razelighter is only "our sword," since there is "one crystal," neglecting that they are made with the essence of the cyrstal, not the actual cyrstal. We can make as many as we want! 6. He makes a segment on dialogue, ignoring 1/4 of it. "My ghost tagged the cabal as the red legion" does not mean an interrogation or the vanguard knew they were coming. It could have just be a banner! 7. He think the only argument against him is that it's a trap. He says it's false because if he was quicker he would kill Ghual. He fails to realize Ghual went out to the deck only when the light was being drained. We could have escaped! Does that matter? No. We didn't disable the traveler taker. 8. He says Ghual has never met people with the light, and that he was lucky the machine worked. He says the consul is the darkness: which he doesn't know and hell, breaks his statement. (It could be anyone (speaker)). 9. He thinks that we could super after our light is taken. I'm done now. That last one made me realize how lame of an attempt that video was for attention.

Thats all fine and dandy. In actuality you have not played Destiny 2, you have played a limited beta. Also you are just sick of the game-play style of destiny as a whole and should avoid any games akin to boarderlands, diablo, and any first person shooters.