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7/26/2017 2:58:35 PM
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I swear the majority of you guys are slower than watching paint dry........ the new weapons system is not because of PvP, just as PvE ammo drops are not because of PvP, slow charge rate on supers and abilities again NOT PVP.! this configuration is a setup to cause team play, now you have to think a little when you assemble a group. who will use what power weapons, who will be ranged, who will clear trash, and so on. this is also to keep most people from using one or two weapons for every event. everything that has changed in D2 has been clear setups for team oriented game play, in BOTH PvE and PvP. D1 has been preparing you for these things if you paid attention. Shaxx bounties ask for primary kills to get you used to more primary action, the quartermaster bounties to get you to use all types, the gunsmith with all types and activities to test them in. modifiers for primary damage or secondary damage to again train you into using certain types of weapons to use in situations. not because of PvP but because D1 people found one or two weapons and ONLY used those making cries for nerfs on everything that anyone figured out was an edge. PvE was made too easy by the use of a few very powerful weapons, and for many people were excluded from most groups if they didn't have weapon x....... given the chance, this system can make fro great team play, fun loadouts, and say it with me people; VARIETY. something new takes time to get used to. of course you won't jump in on the Beta and be as bad ass as your current guardian, you've spent years tweaking your guardian, finding the best weapons, gear, and perk sets to make it yours. this is a bare bones avatar in Beta, no mods, no familiar weapons, no gear that tweaks everything just how you like. you've seen less than 2% of the game, you still have a lot more info to learn, a lot more to be revealed, and a lot of testing things to see what works best for you. NONE of you started D1 mastering the system you grew into it, as you an and will with D2 if you pull your heads out of your sphincters and stop with the stupid everything that is not to my liking is the fault of PvP attitudes trying to change a game before you've even played it.
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  • Yeah no. It's not rocket science, chief.

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  • What ever you have to tell yourself killer

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  • I personally love the weapon system change. It makes people not be blind idiots for once in their lives and it actually forces different game play styles. That was the problem in d1 where we only had one way to play

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  • 작성자: xilxad 7/27/2017 8:03:44 AM
    No way, all these changes were made because pvp was a farking joke all through destiny one. And i would bet your hat that activision has been pressuring bungie to fix it. Look what pvp has done for cod, even when the campaigns were total garbage. Also bungie's legacy with halo multi player, which, im quite sure, wouldnt have been the same without microsoft's input, has to be haunting them. Sadly this dev team isnt capable of balancing a milk money acount, and they refuse to take the best advice given to them by hundreds (at least) of us to SEPARATE pve and pvp.

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  • Bungie said themselves that they wish to promote more teamwork amount Fireteams. You can see this with the new Clam system and guided games, they are wanting us to work together with other Guardians.

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  • 작성자: ExiIelegend 7/27/2017 12:23:45 AM
    I read and comprehend with everything you say, however I will stand by this as a veteran from the beginning of destiny. This new weapon system was, for the most part, meant for pvp balance, because they can't get people to use primaries without taking away specials. The special ammo changes that had happened previously, nerfs, etc to make primaries better were for nothing. Maybe an ever so slight increase in pulse rifles and hand cannons but you still saw sidearms, snipers, shotguns, and fusions all universally more than primaries. Bungie can't and will not separate the stats for weapons because one part cries about a slightly more powerful hidden stat weapon or archetype of gun. Their solution was to take away the special and make it energy weapons now. This pleases the pve community by causing them to have elemental primaries like the old raids provided without sacrificing a exotic slot again. In all pve has always had variety in weapons in destiny even from the beginning. This change was for the most part a pvp balance change with a smidge of pve by decreasing special weapon usage now being locked as a power weapon and increasing primary usage by providing you with only those as your main tools of destruction, while sacrificing the power variety of pve with a lackluster way to sweep the dirt under the carpet of their mess of a balancing team.

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  • The moment you stated how you are a "Vertern of Destiny" I stoped read your post. All you are trying to do with that is trying to create the allusion that you are more qualified to talk about these things, which you aren't.

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  • 작성자: ExiIelegend 7/29/2017 5:56:33 AM
    Not at all, actually I'm putting that I am a veteran of destiny to say I've experienced the highs and lows of destiny from day one. Not a vertern. Honestly don't even know what a vertern is. Plus it's not a social status I'm only saying it for the explanation. I'm not more qualified nor am I entitled by saying it, it's merely stating a fact. Apologies you took that the wrong way.

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  • That's allot of writing for a load of shit. You are a stupid person and your opinion is stupidly formed. You should be ashamed.

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  • I like how you call someone stupid and make a spelling error in the same statement.

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  • see, there's a difference between opinion (what idiots like yourself think is feedback) and facts. opinion, this sucks PvP broke PvE fact, this is a different system, the changes work together if you bother to learn it. opinion, my comment is a load of shit fact, this is well thought out and based on reality, not a butthurt this isn't D1 so it sucks mentality. you should be ashamed for responding

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  • What are you, 12? You don't know a god damned thing about anything.

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  • really? so just what are you posting that shows any sign of knowledge or even a living brain in your head? what pray tell are you constructively criticizing, or fact finding, or even pondering? but great insult asking if I'm 12, you really told me........

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  • Well that was a fat load of crap.

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  • Only because you disagree, if you agreed you would be praising it.

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  • Thanks for that Captain Obvious.

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  • Exactly

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  • only because you can't comprehend my friend.....

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