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작성자: TwigTwig 7/18/2017 11:58:36 PM
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So are we all in agreement crucible is trash?

Weak weapons, People just walk away from engagements, Lengthy super recharge rate, Sweaty 4v4's, STILL laggy as hell, If one person leaves, your team is absolutely screwed, Feels more like a 4v4, dumbed down Call of Duty. A thing of note, it's interesting how, bar a few outliers, the majority of people loving the new system have negative k/ds. Anything to do with the new k/d system perhaps? Enjoying your participation medals? [spoiler]͡° ͜ʖ ͡°[/spoiler]
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  • Seems good to me 😳

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  • I don't really get the CoD reference, did TTK in CoD get lengthened because it was always really fast IMO, but then I've missed the last 3 or 4 completely so things might have changed. I like the increased TTK, puts more emphasis on strategy and teamwork and less on having the best gun.

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  • Lol I've enjoyed the two games I got to play, feels more balanced than d1, didn't see any lag or anything else you described, guns feel the same as d1 guns for ttk. I'll have to play more but it's good so far.

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  • 작성자: TeddyBundy 7/19/2017 8:05:54 AM
    - All usable weapons are like white weapons in D1. Mediocre to extremely bad. - Abilities are stripped down so you're forced to use those crappy guns that kill in 2-3seconds. - Supers take ages to be available and are extremely op. - Teamshooting is the meta. - 4v4 just feels empty. - The radar feels off. Overall it's horrible for solo players. It also feels like Halo without the epicness of Halo.

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    • Muted[spoiler]get thumbs[/spoiler]

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      • Nope - PvP changes are decent. Loving the Beta.

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      • I'm sick of this BS in pvp, they roll out changes and don't test anything, nerfing classes without testing, buffing without testing, ffs why can't they test these things first like run a beta or somethin.....oohhh.

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      • Its so boring, massively disappointed. I've also noticed everyone saying they like d2 crucible is terrible

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      • I really like it bar a couple of things tbh. 1. It takes an age to charge your super, yet they are pretty easy to shut down. Needs to be one or the other in my opinion. Personally I would be in favour of boosting the charge rate. Nades and abilities though, are perfect. 2. Guns are fairly weak. This makes team shooting extremely important and -blam!-s over a lot of casual players. You cannot rely on randoms to help you as it just doesn't happen. Make solo play an incredibly frustrating experience. Gone are the days where you can hop on for a few games and relax so it seems. 3. 4 vs 4. Again this makes solo play painful, as it really exposes the above issues imo. People leaving leaves you really exposed. 5 vs 6 is a lot easier to contend with compared to 3 vs 4. Other than that, I'm really enjoying it. Particularly like the changes to armor and how you can set it up. Having to make an actual choice between mobility, recovery and resilience is a great thing imo.

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      • 작성자: JzstNo 7/19/2017 11:25:13 AM
        Seems like we are using white common weapons like the ones you get from the gunsmith not legendary weapons. TTK is terrible. I can literally walk away from a gunfight Abilities are really slow and it seems to make no difference if I do good or bad the super charges about the same Golden gun is terrible, runs out in about 5 seconds. Arcstrider is pretty poor (like Bladedancer with no blink) not tried the others yet The strike is meh. Long and boring with a bullet sponge boss. The graphics look a bit better, the boss is like Atheons little brother and there's a big drilling machine which was cool the first time I saw it. But if this is the best strike they have to show off the game then it's bad Overall it's pretty below average if this is what it's going to be like for destiny 2 then I can't see myself putting over 2000 hours into it like I did with destiny 1

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        • Full agreement

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        • I am glad some mentioned the ghost bullet issue. Sth is seriously wrong there.

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        • Wouldn't know, Beta isn't live yet for xbox. Plus I'm at work so, no, I don't agree

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        • Also, maybe the reason most of the people you're noticing liking it have negative KDs is because they're not uptight sweaties who enjoy games because they're games? Also also, I've noticed: •that Golden Gun duration is REALLY low •pulse rifles/hand cannons are still king •hand cannons still have bloom •that arc Veist scout rifle seems to have 50% ghost bullets? •sidearms are rather weak, but manageable •shadestep is EXTREMELY slow moving, I get shot out of it most times I use it to try and dodge around a corner

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          • 작성자: GrimTactics 7/19/2017 5:17:29 AM
            Don't know what the hell youre playing but this is what competitive PvP should be. Shouldn't be a complete shite show with supers popping every 2 minutes and having weapons that are greatly overpowered. Slow super regen is perfect and this version of crucible rewards skill moreso than campy little children that don't move with snipers. If D2 launched as is - I'd only say buff sidearms and sub machine guns. Keep everything else as is. Will also say my squad lost 1 match in 2 1/2 hours. Best PvP this franchise has had.

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            • The pvp is so much better than D1 imo. The 4v4 makes th game more tactical and your not getting spammed with specials continually. The weapon damage is fine , very balanced for a Beta. It's incredible how opinions differ so much. I love this pvp more simply because I hate the " infinity war " style run spray die, run spray die, run spray die kiddy crap. It's old hat and it's refreshing that Bungie have adopted a more tactical style approach to the pvp which I'm enjoying immensely. People also actually forget this is a " Beta" and things will change. Sometimes for the better and sometimes for the worse. I only hope that they keep the 4v4 . Another thing I find strange is the amount of people lambasting Bungie about lack of content in the Beta. For the love of God, we have a full strike, pvp and the first story mission to do on 3 different characters. Any more and the full game will not be as exciting to play on release. Stress tests will be made on servers, weapon and class balances will be made because of feedback. Lots of stuff will be done in the background to make the game on release a better experience. It's what Betas are for. Enjoy what we have or just go spray and die on CoD infinity warfare with all the other 7 year olds.

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              • Nope. I think PvP is better than before.

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              • Everything is subject to ones opinion. I enjoy what I'm playing so far. And grateful it's there. Thanks bungle. Still holding hope for tigermans true debut and option for character creation. 👍🐯

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              • 작성자: II_RICHIE_II 7/19/2017 8:45:51 AM
                In agreement. Also want to add the framerate drop. 30 fps is already bad but this is worse than D1.. Aaand ghost bullets. Holy shieeet!! Feels like half of everything I fire doesn't register.

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              • [quote]A thing of note, it's interesting how, bar a few outliers, the majority of people loving the new system have negative k/ds.[spoiler]͡° ͜ʖ ͡°[/spoiler][/quote] Maybe its because those people are good at shooters that require the use of weapons than ability spamming and a great rolled weapon achieved randomly.

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                • How can you tell that anyone has a negative KD? There is no way to track it as far as I'm aware?

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                  • Im liking the pvp and weapons ..it seems tactics come more into play But i would still like the option to have a 30v30 match or anything were no tactics are involved just a blood fest

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                  • I have seen zero lag. Maybe that one is on you?

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                    • 작성자: Dracuur 7/18/2017 10:44:02 PM
                      Actually, pulse and acout rifles are powerful, no lag for me, im having fun, 4v4 works for countdown, control i was never a fan of anyway. I agree about super charge rates and team balance issues.

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                      • The lag is insane. Identical to destiny 1.

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                      • Nope. Just git gud like the rest of us.

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