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3/10/2017 2:44:02 AM
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Senior producer Scott Taylor on vault space with IGN: "We’re working on it."

[url=http://m.ign.com/articles/2016/08/17/gamescom-2016-bungie-promises-destiny-rise-of-iron-vault-space-improvements][/url] Direct quote by Senior Producer Scott Taylor on the lead up to ROI launch regarding vault space, in an interview with IGN: Question: will there be more vault space? [b]“Not on day one.” Continuing, he adds, “If I open my phone right now, we’re working on solutions that make that a good experience… We’re working on it.”[/b] Today we find out there will be no more vault space. Rise of iron has been out for months, with bungie never addressing the community's need for more storage, until today. Basically bungie has known for weeks, at least, possibly all along, that no more storage was coming, but was too chickenshit to admit it until today. Add it to the long list of outright lies, and I'm not even surprised. Bungie has a consistent track record of avoiding the issue, allowing the community to get rightfully frustrated, only to finally respond way too late. Typical signs of no organization and amateur leadership. Now watch the fan boys get angry and try to respond to undeniable facts. (Gets popcorn)
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  • Bungie has earned zero trust and credibility with me Latest lie on Vault Space: Direct quote by Senior Producer Scott Taylor on the lead up to ROI launch regarding vault space: “Not on day one.” Continuing, he adds, “If I open my phone right now, we’re working on solutions that make that a good experience… We’re working on it. Not only did they not give use more vault space, they allocated development resources for creating a kiosk to facilitate silver dust and ornaments microtransactions as well as a holiday kiosk for the same reason. Meanwhile, we get all these consumables through microtransactions and Bungie PURPOSELY gives us no quick way to discard them to conserve vault space. You know why? Because they want us to use them so that people will see us in the tower to help promote microtransactions for them. Older lies: Auto Rifle buff (0.04%) We're not using SBMM We're not using SBMM We're not using SBMM We're not using SBMM Ok, we're using SBMM We're fixing SBMM We're fixing SBMM We're fixing SBMM We're fixing SBMM Comitatus is not bugged Damage Referee Mercy Rule We know you value your gear, you'll be able to take them forward We're fixing SBMM We're banning people Bungie lies that will make you laugh: Playable terrain (check at the 2 mins mark): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTfhrONAp-c Checking the playable terrain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9YoJjdEBv8

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    • Well, Bungie knew they weren't gonna give us any vault space. How do I know? Cause there were silent about it. If they said "NO VAULT SPACE" from the beginning when ROI came out, how many people would purchase items from "Festival of the Cost" or "the Dawning"? Let's look at this way: 1) They kept quiet. They got more money. We were fools to think that they were gonna increase vault space. 2) Remember the reason for micro-transactions? It's to increase the budget for D1 live content. That in turn would hire more resources to build better experiences for live content. SO how was the live content? a) Festival of the Lost - SUCKED. It was copy of the past devs with new gear and we got a holiday kiosk. b) The Dawning - OK but SRL was the same and we got a revamp of the holiday kiosk. 3) SO the question is: a) Do 100% of the money earned from mirco-transactions go towards improving live content experiences? b) If not, were is the resources to create these live content experiences Deej addressed? So all in all, I think Destiny did it for the money and again if they told us after Taken King we will not be expanding vault space from now until D2 then I am almost positively sure that the outcome of micro-transactions would be different. They chose to keep silent to give us ambiguous hope about vault space and then had us buy stuff. This is just one of the lies or in this case they took advantage of the consumers.

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    • They added more kiosks with Festival of the Lost and the Dawning. This was their solution. Guess you will just have to get by with the 108 weapons and 108 pieces of armour you can store in your vault in addition to the 90 of each that each guardian can carry. I know.. so hard done by.

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    • True but recently this week at Bungie clearly states they will not be no vault space and kiosks are the situation. I believe was said during the stream as well

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    • They did work on it. The Kiosks are -blam!-ing amazing. Quit hoarding and learn to buck up

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      • "we are working on it" does not mean that they promised us shite. We are working on it could mean they are working towards better vault options for D2? Perhaps they DID intend on having more vault space for D1 and then business happened. Ya know, where you go into work thinking you are going to do "said" thing, but business goals change and you have to work on this other "said" thing. Stop assuming that just because he said "we are working on it" that he meant that D1 will have more vault space. Literally no where, in any podcast or reveal, or twitch, or weekly update did they ever. EVER. Promise us more vault space. Promise being the key word. Stop spreading this nonsense. A ton of forum users are claiming they were wronged and blah blah blah when at the end of the day, nothing was promised. Life lesson learned. Don't get your hopes up, because your hopes aren't always reality.

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        • This is the end of Destiny & they probably knew that after ROI. Would you spend thousands of dollars on a new storage building knowing you would be moving in a few months?

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          • Exactly where in that quote that every one seems to always fall back to using when talking about the [i]promised[/i] vault space did Scott Taylor specifically state what they were working on was in fact an increase?? I'm not saying Bungie is innocent on this particular issue, far from it, but it was the community that built up this whole 'Bungie said they are given us more space' premise - not Bungie and so the bulk of the blame for this so-called lie falls on the community. Bungie just didn't do themselves any justice by quashing the rumors early on, especially if it was known before now. ** sips tea ** I'll point out is that the only thing they added after RoI was released (aka the so-called day one) was two kiosks.. One for the Holiday / Event items and another for the Silver Dust items.. Neither of which I consider to be solutions that make for a good experience. Honestly, I think the Silver Dust kiosk came about due to the backlash regarding how the silver dust was first introduced and how it was handled. What I would have liked to seen were some QoL (quality of life) changes - like having an increase to the stack sizes of consumables, being able to sort or filter the items in my vault, having a separate section for consumables and upgrade materials. The only thing that I'll agree on is that they probably have known for some time, and they only now announce it. Typical Bungie transparency...

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            • In 3 months, no one is going to give a shit about the vault space. People will watch the D2 trailer and will be counting down the days until D2's release. Or at least that's what I'll be doing.

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              • 작성자: TheArtist 3/10/2017 7:13:12 PM
                They gave us the special event kiosks that came with The Dawning. Which should have freed up a fair amount of vault space. There are such things as technological limitations.

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                • 작성자: CAD1420Z 3/13/2017 12:41:21 AM
                  Holy shit. You are literally taking that out of context and trying to apply it to an entirely different situation. This is not an expansion. We are not getting fountains of new items. How about you clear out some of the shit you never use in the first place? I can understand keeping certain things for arbitrary and personal reasons, but do you need EVERY item you've acquired?

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                  • Are you guys [b]still[/b] complaining about this? Do you have nothing better to do?

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                  • You're an addict. You need help. The first step is admitting you have a problem.

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                  • This is disgusting.. IGN is fake news just like the news media. These guys are ruining the integrity of the video game industry. They are spewing lies and making topics one sided to get the community to attack the video game developers. And the gamers believe everything they read about. Poor Bungie had done nothing wrong. I know Scott, I met him at Whole Foods. He never said anything to IgN about vault space, they are manipulating his words and taking things out of context. Shame on IGN with their fake properganda

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                    • Here..have a Beej

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                      • I'm not for or against more vault space...but I have 1 question, why do you bother to keep every set of armor and weapon you get? Why does it matter? 99% of the things you keep will do nothing for you. Unless you take out and wear all the armor sets every day, I just don't see the point of saving everything. My vault has NEVER filled more than 1 page of space

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                        • There's no need for more space

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                        • Hoarding is a mental disorder, please get help.

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                          • Why the need for so much vault space?

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                            • have you tried "Deleting" all your Year 1 garbage? I have 3 sets of armor, 1 for each Classes sub class, and i still have 80 spaces for armor and 30 spaces for Weapons.... How are you hording so much Junk? it doesn't make any sense to me... Clear the crap out you haven't used in 6 months or more... I have 3 year 1 items saved, my Gally, Fatebringer and Murmer, that's it.... I have plenty of vault space for all the new/used items coming....

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                            • Bungie did make a way to give you more vault space. [spoiler]By deleting all of it[/spoiler]

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                            • so its agree with you or im a fanboy? what if they WANTED to increase vault space (and no downsides), but they just recently gave up on it after fruitless attempts to do so? saying "no more" after RoI could have shot themeselves in the foot too, hence the safe route they took. no facts from you or me, all we can do is speculate and extrapolate.

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                            • "We're working on it" can lead to "it just won't work" so deal with it. They didn't lie, they just couldn't do something they tried to. Suck it the -blam!- up

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                              • Delete some shit in the vault it's not as if you will carry it over to D2. Start with exotics you can always get then back from the I phones in the tower.

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                              • I have 3 fatebringer 3 black hammers and 3 voc I could use the space but they're all my precious.

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                              • It's called throw away your junk, and you'll have room. Gg.

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