I've occasionally asked myself that question too. Why is Trials?

[i]Sometimes when your hopes have all been shattered And there's nowhere to turn You wonder how you keep going Think of all the things that really mattered And the chances you've earned The fire in your heart is growing You can fly, if you try leaving the past behind Heaven only knows what you might find DARE! - dare to believe you can survive You hold the future in your hand DARE! - dare to keep all of your dreams alive It's time to take a stand And you can win, if you dare Everybody's trying to break your spirit Keeping you down Seems like it's been forever But there's another voice if you'll just hear it Saying it's the last round Looks like it's now or never Out of the darkness you stumble into the light Fighting for the things you know are right DARE! - dare to believe you can survive The power is there at your command DARE! - dare to keep all of your dreams alive It's time to take a stand And you can win, if you dare DARE! - dare to believe you can survive You hold the future in your hand Dare - dare to keep all of your dreams alive The power is there at your command DARE! - dare to keep all your love alive Dare to be all you can be DARE! - 'cause there is a place where dreams survive And it's calling you on to victory[/i]

Elimination doesn't suit me wish it was skirmish

I consider myself a slightly above average crucible player, and I have never been to the lighthouse. Didn't play much of it in year one, but I play it evey week now, but can never make it to the lighthouse due to the poor matchmaking. It does end up being MLG, youtube, and pill enhanced dicks that I run into the further I get. I have pretty much lost all hope, unless it is fixed.

Some good conversations happening here

You know what is sad, trial is no where near competitive as people make it. This trial is only for the best, gets old real quickly.

No players will not return because they dont have access without a private fireteam so no they wont return they never have & never will unless a freelance playlist is implemented.

People wont comeback because they make trials matchmaking the old way, all its going to do is push away the more dedicated players, and just lead to tonnes of smurf accounts when such systems were implemented on H5/R6. All the people I know who quit playing Destiny, (About 80% of my friends list.) were due to the game having little to no content and nothing new, trials changes will push away more players than it will bring back. A tiered card system is more competitively balanced, people play and as they go on to win they play people on an equal amount of wins, and as such are more likely to get a fair game, you're arguing for a system where somebody on their 1st win could face another team on win 20, the current method has more competitive balance than the stupid system you want in does. The only reason they want the year 1 system is because you could play a fresh card on game 9 which is completely unfair, and this then leads to an easy flawless. Get better or don't play, I know many who did.

Destiny is well on its way to being dead mate... its laying in the coffin waiting for the dirty to bury it. The only people with drive to play Trials or Destiny PvP are the people who make money or content off it, yes theres a small amount of people who are normal that just want to play trials but those people have all but gone. Go back 10 - 15 weeks and check the number of players playing trials... some weeks it was up around 800k... now its been going down ever since and is sitting at around 300k. Now spread that 300k players all across the world and you may only have 10k people playing Trials in your area. Now take into account that not all those players are playing at the same time. Now take into account that not all those players who are playing at the same time as you are on the same wins as you. The pool is rather small isnt it, so the chances of you coming against better players who are carrying or making content is much higher then normal. Just my 2 cents. [spoiler]I would love playing trials each weekend (when i wasnt busy) and none of my team or friends play anymore... once a month at best.[/spoiler]

Bungie did exactly what these forums ask for.

I say keep Trials as is. Every city needs a landfill, so does Destiny. It keeps the worst of this community away from the other game modes. I would like to see another separate play list for the more casual players, Trials Light. A little less competitive, with matchmaking. Lesser rewards, but still good. No, I'm obviously not bashing every Trials player. I'm just saying the worst elements of Destiny (DDos cheaters, ragers, etc.) gravitate to that game mode.

Honestly, the only way anything will change is going to be if the average player or slightly above just stops playing trails, and stops watching streamers play it. Once the population hits a certain level they'll be forced to make changes I would think. Personally, I'm not interested in trials or PvP, so I'm not too worried either way.

They just need to change the Grimoire accessibility. Personally I have no reason to play Trials. Never been flawless and don't care about it. I do want the Grimoire, but playing a card just isn't fun. I'd prefer the change the requirement to receive the Grimoire to 3 wins no losses gives you access to the Osiris card and 5 wins grants access to the Lighthouse as a social space only. "9" wins grants access to the loot. Then I might actually try.

I really dont understand how this is a problem. I never play trials, played it in year 1 and year 2 a bit, made it to the LH a few times, I would say every weekend I tried. But I particularly dont like playing, although I do enjoy watching it. Said this, Trials was meant for the better/best players. When a streamer is carrying one or two people, he is in a disadvantage, if you cannot win a streamer (no matter how good he/she is) carrying 1 or 2 below average players (most likely way below average) then it is not the streamers fault but yours. I personally rather play against a streamer doing a carry or a double carry than a high ELO team... but that's just me though. I watched a few streamers every now and then, and it is not rare to see them lose, of course this normally happens when they face a decent team, not the average joe who is desperate to make it to the LH for the first time. Basically, if you are good at PvP you should have no fear of who you are paired against, sooner or later you will make it there...