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작성자: ESS176
1/16/2017 9:15:33 PM
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Return Nightfalls to Year 1 standards
Nightfalls actually used to be challenging. When your fire team wiped, you'd get returned to orbit and would have to retry. I remember doing my first nightfall and I was sweating like crazy. In this regard, also increase the drop of GOOD gear and get rid of legendary gauntlets, helmets etc. in the loot table. Also give us the blue flame buff after finishing one.
Make nightfalls great again!
Cheers everyone!
Edit: Holy moly! We're trending fast! Keep it going ya'll!
Edit 2: Its funny how people say that only "hardcore" players want Y1 NFs back. If i remember correctly, I am anything but one. Yes, I'm day one, yes I ONCE soloed Valus in Y1 after 2 1/2 hrs. But i only started raiding a month before RoI came out. I also only completed WotM once on normal. Imo Bungo isn't catering to enough to people that play the game for longer periods of time.
Edit 3: A lot of people don't want to return to orbit when they wipe, but much rather restart at the beginning, which is perfectly fine. And it is a lot better!
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4 답변Y1 Nf with alllllll those fun y1 guns too. I would play every damn week on both my characters. Make pve fun again. Well, it's certainly a great game but damn, y1 weapon selection made pve 10 Xs more fun........and DIVERSE! Pvp? I don't care anymore. Caused so much damage to pve i could care less what they're complaining about today, tomorrow, or next week. It's always something and it will always, ALWAYS, be something.
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2 답변I will be down for this if: 1. 3oC are removed from the game completely; and 2. several things which make Nightfall rewards trash are removed as well. Strange coins, 3oC, Emotes, Sparrows, etc. just need to go. When you finish a nightfall done Y1 style, you should get a legendary item or an exotic item. PERIOD.
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Here's how -rainbow burn is back -exposure and the modifier that slows down ability cooldowns are removed - elemental damage corresponding to the burn modifiers do 3x more damage from all sources -return to orbit after wipe -blue flame xp and rep boost returns -no revive timer -guaranteed legendary weapon or exotic, anything else is an extra (ghost shells, emote packs, strange coins, three of coins, motes of light, legendary armour, engrams... all the shit)
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2 답변I always thought that instead of getting sent to orbit, you were just taken to the beginning to the NF instead. That seems more efficient for everyone, and it's essentially the same as sending people back to orbit.
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Absolutely would love to see the kto modifier back. Especially trying to complete the sunrise bounty. But sadly, all the entitled ass wipes on here would bitch and moan because it would be "unfair" and they can't just coast to rewards.
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Actually the real kicker now is that 30 sec revive, where two of your teammates have to wait while running around undermanned. Especially for this week's Night-fail in particular. Friggn' "blind" ogre chasing you around the map while hiding from the teleporting boss and siva shanks! Annoying! Only to have one of you teammates get whacked then have to wait to revive while bouncing around trying not to take too much damage. Then finally getting to revive them just to have a sprinting blind ogre smash the two of you again. Fing bs.
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Nightfalls weren't more challenging. They were more tedious and boring due to having to redo the whole mission again if the whole team died. Rewards in Year 1 were just as good as they are right now. The issue you might have isn't about the rewards themselves, it's about the light-level system used. Gear drops before dropped at pre-determined levels while now it drops relative to your own light-level, so that the reward should always be something higher value. Guns were the same back then as they are now. Nothing different there. Modifiers are they same as they were before. The only actual change was the Nightfall modifier that kicked the team to orbit should they die. That is what is called an artificial-difficulty increase. The majority of Destiny uses artificial-difficulty increases for most of the content aside from raids, where mechanics come into play. I'm glad the Nightfall-modifier is gone because that means I don't have to feel pressured into sitting as far back from the enemy as possible to not get hit by them or else I'll risk dying which can risk the team dying so on and so on. Now I can actually just play the game without that worry. It's not even a worry of enemies. It's a worry on slowing the pace of the game. Not to mention the rewards were never worth the trouble of being kicked to orbit.
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2 답변You think these year 2 and year 3 players bitching about doing the nightfall for Ice Breaker is bad? Make nightfalls like year one and these snowflakes will whine and cry forever, probably retreat to their safe spaces LMFAO. They have no idea what the grind and rewards and drop rates were like in year one. Let them find out and maybe they'd have an appreciation for this game instead of complaining all the time.
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1 답변What if they kept nightfalls as is, but added a new version that's even harder, that would return you to orbit on a wipe, had better drops, and would grant the blue flames (which includes the do and rep buff!)
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4 답변Yes, please bring back Trickle. God, I miss that so much! [spoiler]sorry, got off my meds for a second there[/spoiler]
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작성자: U12070628 1/12/2017 10:00:25 PMOnly hardcore players? You never had to be a pro to do nightfalls. It's actually more fun if you do it below the recommended level but the hardcore players would just want to speed run through it and cheese it. Cough cough gjallarhorn cough cough cheese spots cough cough skipping all the enemies
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2 답변Y1 Nightfall rewards were as garbage as Y2 apart from the 'ooo look to me with my blue head!' Y2 I did one Nightfall: Shield Brothers, Solar burn when at 285 when the cap was 310, I think, for....Jack Shit! I've had more enjoyable toothache.... Tell a lie; did the Fallen Sabre one with Taken enemies around the same time...for more of Jacks finest poop. Y3: did 10 during The Dawning for absolutely nothing. Icebreaker on No. 11. No reason to run them again that I can tell. To make Nightfall appealing as end-game PvE content then they should have a dedicated unique loot pool like Trials. Rotate that as a guarantee every week then I might be interested. I have no need for blue boots or a flaming head!
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4 답변I'm actually against bringing back the kick to Orbit. It makes it possible to solo the nightfall. [spoiler] If you attach buttered toast to the bottom of a cats paws butter side up and drop it, will it just spin in the air? [/spoiler]
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1 답변Lightswitch + arc burn + thralls was a right pain! I would pay anything to see the game return to how it was in y1
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How about not. Y1 Nightfalls were very easy to solo. However more importantly, it wouldn't work. Most notably the 30 minute Gold bounty. The old Y1 Nightfalls could be easily soloed, yet they would take a longer time because people would be more careful. Take away the respawning means they'd have to increase that timer as well
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I would rather wipe to beginning instead of orbit. But also I would rather wipe than wait to revive someone for 30 seconds. Now if the all dead wipe to beginning/orbit was still around... typically when someone dies or two members die... the third is normally playing safe and will take XXX amount of time anyways to get to you and revive.
