There is so much hate on the forums about Trials...every weekend.
There are a few common themes about why people hate Trials:
1) Apparently they play "professionals" every game and get stomped
2) Lag
3) Cheaters?
4) Tryhards (lol)
5) New meta..
I have played lots of trials.. and here are my opinions on each of these themes (if you care at all)
1) Steamers/"Professionals"/Stacked teams....:
You are going to run into good players. Why should they not be allowed to carry someone to the lighthouse or run as a stacked team? There are no rules against this.. you just have to accept this situation. If you don't freak out instantly when you see their names/stats you could actually beat those teams if you play smart.
2) Lag:
I run into a full team of red-bars MAYBE once per full card. Again, these teams are beatable. It does not automatically mean that they are cheating... its just connection. Most people here, including myself, do not know all the technical stuff about internet connections so its best to not just jump to conclusions that they are cheating. Especially if that team has a 50% win percentage lol. Yes, it is extremely frustrating to play against these teams... the best way to beat them is to change your strategy up a bit.
3) Cheaters:
There s a 99.99% chance that team wasn't cheating.
4) Tryhards:
They want to go flawless... just like you... so screw those guys, right?
5) New meta:
Shotguns do not have near as much range as they used to (year 1).
Snipers needed a flinch because you should not be able to drill someone in the head with a primary multiple times and then they take out their sniper and dome you. If you think you hate flinch, go back to the old Halo days where it would de-scope you completely if you were shot at. Bungie finally put snipers in their place. You should not be able to run around the map with your sniper... it is a sniper.
The clever dragon is only hated because everyone has it. It is just like the grasp (god-roll grasps actually have more range). I use the vendor-roll clever dragon in trials.. go ahead and hate me.
Yes titans are crazy fast and warlocks have a mile-long melee and nightstalkers can shadestep... every class has their advantages, you need to learn how to counter them. Just accept the fact that you are not the developer of the game but rather the player... play the game.
I get that most maps are close quarter combat... it is what it is.
So there's my opinions.. Lots of you will probably look me up. I play on a nightstalker and use the meta, yup go ahead and hate me. I also go flawless on that character like 10 times a week.. so I like to win. Before this meta, I used the hawksaw and conspiracy theory and still easily went flawless.. Sucked on a warlock when i started the game right after TTK, so his stats suck.. haven't played it in 8 months.
I get that Trials can be very difficult for lots of players... but honestly here are some tips that may help you go flawless or just win more games:
1) Have a stormcaller on your team
2) Don't have more than 1 hunter on your team unless your teammates are very good
3) Use shotguns on small maps, no more than 1 sniper on ANY map unless your teammates are very good
4) Use the meta if you have it unless you are good with other weapons. Don't use a scout-rifle or auto-rifle in most cases
5) In most cases do not use your super in a 3v1 (if you are the 3 or the 1).
6) Keep the res's down
7) If you run defender use the bubble for heavy round and bait slams/novas
8) Be aware of enemy supers, how much time is left on the clock, where the over-time spawns, your teammates supers, grenades, map position, etc... all the little things matter.
9) If you match up against a team of 3 Titans, your team should rotate to a more open part of the map and not push them so aggressively because they can fly at you very quickly. You need to see them coming.
10) If you match a stacked team do not immediately freak out
Free tip: Team shot!
Edit: Some additional tips people (Valek27) have suggested!
11) Teamwork/communication: This is the single biggest factor even over individual skill to winning games. A team that works together and complements each other can beat a team of more skilled players that aren't working together. Basically don't form a team with guys you barely pvp with and expect an easy run to the lighthouse. [b]Your classes/loadouts should also complement eachother[/b]
12) Stick together: While great players can solo flank with success, average players rarely can. 90% of the time if you lone wolf you will die. It'll be a 3v1 or 2v1 and yeah you may take 1 guy out before you die. But he died next to his team so he's easily revived. You however died next to the enemy, so getting you back up is going to be next to impossible. Or your team dies in a 3v2 fight. The enemy team revives and it's now 3v1 against you. Rarely will anything good happen if you go alone...so stick with your team.
13) Map awareness/map control: You need to know where the common lanes are that players use. Also you need to know where the control point is. Sure your team may have a perfect area to defend [u][/u]and any team that attacks you will die. But if it's on the other side of the map away from where the control point spawns....you gave the other team a free win if they are smart. Conversely if your team is doing a good job controlling the area where the point spawns...stay patient. Aggressive teams are at a disadvantage against a team that's prepared for them. Eventually the other team will have to come for you putting them at a disadvantage against your team. Or they stay back and you guys cap for an easy win.
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I watched Realkraffty having a total meltdown about the current trials meta today on stream after ge got stomped on nearly every game, he was nearly crying he got so emotional. This meta is the worst and if your not using mapador also with skorris and clever aids you arent winning. Dont get better, Use Meta
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2 답변You want to know what's the biggest problem with trials? [spoiler]Absolutely nothing! I love trials and I'm not even that good at it! Hell I've yet to get a fifth win on a passage coin, but you don't hear me complaining about it. Because there's nothing wrong with it if you lost that's your fault it's not that the other team was cheating or that they are a bunch of tryhards, it's your fault you lost. Own it or quit playing.[/spoiler]
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14 답변작성자: Stari 1/12/2017 12:08:47 AMI DON'T BELIEVE in CARRIES! It's just that some players in Destiny are always the host and get connection advantage (Latency). They carry a noob and they go to The Lighthouse, mostly even without Mercy? WHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. YEAH, RIGHT! I've played such teams. Three of us (12 years friends, from Xbox) shooting one guy, which doesn't take damage and he kills us all. Thanks to P2P and their "Perfect Bungie Connection", where they see the most other players at least one second earlier on their screens. And they kill the enemies, like they are playing CoD and not Destiny. (i WISH, i could get such easy kills in Destiny). Destiny's PvP is UNFAIR for the big majority of players! I play PvP for 14 years every day and Destiny is the only game in 2016/17, where my bullets don't do damage. Unfortunally mostly NOOBS, which Destiny is first FPS, really think they are that good. Guys! You are just lucky with your internet connection and probably your region.
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16 답변작성자: brandon 1/12/2017 4:50:51 PMAs a Titan I can say our full speed is not enough to out run a stormpest. I ran with Mida and dune marchers, had a good head start on the stormpest... I didn't stand a chance. The combo of the stormpest speed plus the lighting range is (I can't believe I'm about to say this because I NEVER do this..) in need of a nerf. A tad off topic... please spare my life...
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1 답변Get gud use matador clever combo. Sniping? who does that lame skill based playing bs right? Nerf snipers more please. Why should I die when some one puts a tiny reticle on my tiny head and shoots. It Should take multiple head shots to kill me ffs.
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3 답변Is there anything in this post about finger pointing? When I run with people I hear them complain about losing a round because someone else didn't rez them (you see where I'm going with this?) all it does is cause people to tilt or go silent which will cripple a team.
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작성자: CJ 1/13/2017 1:47:26 AMI only had one real issue with this wall of text. The issue with snipers doesn't necessarily lie in their flinch from being hit. The problem lies in the primary weapons and their rate of fire combined with the fact that [u]a lot [/u]of weapons fire very quickly, like Clever Dragon. If you get hit with a scout rifle that has HCR and is, let's say, a Badger CCL-archetype of scout rifle. It flinches you quite a bit, but the slow fire rate of that weapon allows you to realign your scope quickly enough to get a quick shot off, hopefully hitting your target. The reason the faster-firing weapons didn't have HCR very often was because the increased fire rate would make sniping more than simply a learned skill- it would immediately put you at a disadvantage, which is what the situation is at the moment. I'm not going to be a proponent for nerfing Clever Dragon, because it's a relief to see a primary weapon be powerful in this META. Decrease sniper flinch slightly.
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3 답변Just make 2 class every week-end. Player who went to the lighthouse and people who didn't. You went to the lighthouse this week, you play against people who did too. You didn't go, well, you face people who didn't go either! What a simple way to avoid those who rush the lighthouse on Friday! Less frustration for the regular people!
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4 답변You know what the biggest problwm in trials is? Not enough players because the majority of players dont have a fireteam or the stats to lfg,I think by this time most people would just like the chance to actually just play the game mode. Its 2016 ffs & we still dont have some sort of in game lfg or optional matchmaking system. Ofcourse we dont because bungie doesnt want everybody playing because if everybody was just playing & having fun we might actually stop fighting each other & start asking for a decent game. UNFORTUNATLY THERE ARE TO MANY STUPID CHILDREN IN THIS GAME THAT SEEM TO THINK RANDOM PEOPLE ON LFG ARE SOMEHOW BETTER & MORE DESERVING TO PLAY THAN SOMEBODY QUEING IN A LOBBY. #DESTINYLOGIC
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A good many of these reasons is why I wanted to run this past week with two of my usual group. Because we haven't had the chance to in a while and I think we've all gotten a good bit better. Unfortunately we didn't and I got two randoms from the100. Needless to say they wouldn't listen to me most of the time about staying together and kept getting killed because of it.
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10 답변The negative people in this community are equivalent to liberals. Being completely honest. When they don't get what they want they make huge fits about it!
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Ppl don't actually hate clever , they hate HCR rounds cause , they the reason they outgun people , and remember the glitch and farm ominguel everyone got a god roll grasp it wasn't a problem cause it didn't have HCR rounds
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4 답변This post is gold! Trials isnt supposed to be easy, that would take all the glory out of it. YES there are laggers, YES you get sweaty teams. But thats part of it. And if you arent willing to suck it up and use the meta or adjust to counter it, then you dont really want flawless bad enough to deserve it. Ive been playing since TTK, and im a decent player. Ive experienced laggers, ddosers, super sweatys and streamers. Last time the map was Firebase Delphi i got matched against The Managator and Kjhovey and gpt absolutely annihilated. But you know what, i kept playing, and trying and trying and practicing and running card after card after card and this last week was the first time ive EVER gone flawless. And i wouldnt change a damn thing. It was hard and frustrating but when i finally pulled it off it was SO satisfying. Dont be discouraged guys! Keep at it. Youll get there
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9 답변Every below average, average, or slightly above average player (that includes me) should forget all about trials, seriously. Leave it to the top 5%. Let them just play each other without having anyone to pub stomp and then lets see if they want changes to trials after a few weeks.
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1 답변작성자: RhuM 1/12/2017 6:02:46 PMAll you said is so right. I have been flawless more than 90x so I feel you if some complain about the meta ( clever, matador...) they can play with these weapons... they can also play any character they fell and the subclass they want. Planet Destiny have some good set up for every subclass. Now the only problem is connection but as nobody know how mechanically and technically it is working we all just pray for some green bars;) But thinking it is too salty, too sweaty... that only the top 5% will go 9-0 because they play stacked, they use the meta to it's most vicious sides that's true. That's why they are better. And I don't think trial is dead it will be a 200 000 players pool at the lower but each new season (new emblems, gear...)it will be more than tripled. I am happy that not everybody can get to the lighthouse (legit not carried or account recovery) It must be hard. It is the endgame of PvP ! See you tomorrow for some fight Guardians
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13 답변I complain because I face those streamers and play with friends who barley have time to play but on Friday nights. No amount of tips, strategy, etc will trump players who do this streaming hours upon hours every single day of the week. I have been playing since beta and never made it flawless with those friends. I had to play against Murdaro recently... #1 trials player in the world... explain this to me... plays professionally and has gone flawless more times than I've even turned on my PlayStation.
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6 답변So basically, you're complaining about complainers who complain about trials? Kinda funny...
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Your comment that attempts to refute the new meta reason is awful. It collapse on itself and you say things like flinch was needed because you shouldn't be able to get sniped while shooting that person but when it comes to a similar situation (shotgun warrior) you say to just adapt which is a double standard. Whether you want to admit it or not the meta is a problem right now
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