A lot of aspects of the lore do that though. Most of it subtle, but some more than others. The Iron Lord artifacts as a recent example, the VoG guns/armor, they do a sort of Dark Souls way to reveal a fraction of the world by using items to explain or simply say things. If you've ever played a Dark Souls game you'll get what I mean. Although, some literally have pieces of Grimoire Card on them too. The Owl Sector Crisis, with the disease thing that went around in Crucible, talked about what Guardians do. Strangely, and humorously, the lore sometimes tries to focus on what players in the game do as well as guardians purely in the lore do. One guy commented, in a Owl Sector section, on how guardians are fried in the head because they dance for no reason. Another Grimoire card is a Cabal report showing several guardians doing acrobatics and dancing after killing a Cabal squad. So it's not uncommon.

Your examples are incorrect. All of those things existed in design before hand. Players didn't create the iron lords lore because we liked iron banner guns, the shadows of yor thing exists solely because the crucible was packed with thorns and they found a neat way to add it to lore. The artifacts exist based on characters that exist. Same with VoG, no lore was created because people played VoG a specific way. I'm saying, if thorn wasn't the op gun that filled actual crucible, there wouldn't be grimoire talking about Vale. It's kind of a quippy joke how shaxx is super worried that darkness is going to corrupt guardians when it's really a bunch of guys just using thorns so they have an advantage in crucible matches.

Wait did you just seriously suggest that thorn was running rampart in crucible and is actually powerful? Lmfao the 18th century called and said to get with the times.

Not speaking about current meta. speaking on when the grimoire cards in OP came out.

Oh ok so they are speaking on the past. Even though events are spoken of that did not exist then? Just genuinely curious as to how they would have been talking about supremacy when supremacy didn't exist lore wise at that time.

Bungie took the fact that thorn was popular in crucible with real players during year one. When they decided to release a huge block of crucible based grimoire, they(bungie) decided to build a little substory about guardians(story guardians) who realized how OP the thorn was in crucible so they(story guardians)decide to spam thorns in crucible.

Oh ok. So I guess in year one we were using the cursed version of thorn since it was so powerful? Since the cards do talk about Yor and his version of thorn in past tense. And the shadows of Yor are what are supposedly going around now accordingly to lore? If I am wrong correct me but that is how I am understanding it.

You missed my point then. My point is that the game often pays homage to things that we do in game as well as simple story already in the game. The items often tries to help tie things together, whether we made it or not. Yes, we do not make most of it. But a lot of vanilla lore and Iron Banner lore in game was the only real way to have a glimpse at what was going on at one point. -- And even if Thorn wasn't the hype filled gun that it was in Y1, it's not like they couldn't have done that either. There would still be Thorns in the crucible and a lot of people, including me, like the Thorn in Y1 even before it got buffed. And clearly it was one of the more thoughtful story lines in the game design to begin with. It seems like Bungie itself has a love for the story. So just the fact that Thorn would be in the crucible is enough to spur this story. So it is funny that it ties into what actually happened with the player base. But it also is its own story too. So you can look at it either way.

Not really early story since none of those grimoire existed until after HoW. Nothing else has grimoire created solely based off player usage. Basically if thorn never got used in crucible but everyone used mida and bitched about mida, there would be more lore about mida

That's one way to look at it. But again, Destiny has always had a very strong tie with Thorn. It might as well be a sub plot of the whole game on some level. So I dunno... I still think they had planned on it for a while. They just didn't have the cards up. A quest, that I can't remember, is how in 3v3 Shaax likes watching teams of Last Words and Thorns go at it against one another. This one too, you can see both ways. Either intended or just off chance. Still cool all the same. Well, for the Thorn, no it's not early story. But in other aspects of lore. Like again, the Iron Lords, the weapons were the only way to even get a glimpse at who they were. Not something we made but an example at how only the game really shed even the slightest light on them.

Quit bringing up the iron lords, they have nothing to do with this. They were mentioned by weapon names first because there was no place for, or existing, lore on them at the time. Them becoming more flushed out was something that was either always planned or just came about because they knew they could milk iron banner for a frequent "event". Again, there is nothing else in this game that got lore based on nothing but players using the item IN GAME.