Trials in it's current form supports paid carries. If he can't see that...

Basically get good. Or cry and pay streamers to carry you losers.

I suck at pvp and will never be good enough to get to the light house without being carried. I understand that the light house is for die hard PVPers no problem there. Yes it would be nice if once you have gone flawless with each character you get put with other flawless people so that more people can get there. But whatever it's a game and I can get leveled up other ways. One thing I don't agree with is you should only be able to do the bounties once per week. You should not be able to do the gold tier bounties more than once a week period. No other activities or bounties can be completed daily for end game loot (i.e. Shax bounties nightfall iron banner etc. ) Just my thoughts

Crying about "I play the game and it's not fair that I can't make it to the lighthouse" is like crying about anything else performance based - entitled. Why are there so many who play Destiny that aren't able to go flawless so entitled? How many participation medals have been bestowed upon you in your life simply for showing up and being on the roster? As much as I wish that this was just a bunch of spoiled 14 year olds who get all up in arms, Sadly it's people who got degrees in underwater basket weaving at ITT tech and bitch about the competition in the job market. How about this example - I work out regularly and grew up my whole life playing sports and being active, but I won't make it into the NFL even though I absolutely love football. I lack the speed, strength, talent, experience, and time required to be good enough. You won't see me blowing up Roger Goddell's Twitter about it. "But the lighthouse is content I paid money for" Wrong. You paid money to have a chance at it. Same way you do at say a power lifting contest or a marathon. Guess what? There's only 3 spots on the podium (sometimes more, let's not get too technical here). There are "participation medals" for the most part, which would be the equivalent of those non flawless emblems available that drop at random in Trials. Sincerely, Everyone who's worked really hard to earn something TL;DR - Not every achievement has your name on it. Welcome to life.

Carry me daddy!

Been to the lighthouse twice this week. Look up my stats, I'm no pvp god. I'm average to slightly above average. I did not get carried, intact both times were with 2 random people with similar stats. One player had never been. Keep grinding people you'll get there

It's kinda stupid for him to make this statement being that without the participation of average players almost no one would make it to the lighthouse. If only elite players played they would all take each other out before reaching the 7 wins needed for a flawless card.

a bit of a douchy dick move from Derek , but then what would you expect if you allow hardcore PvP guys to "design" an activity.. caters to the special snowflakes what else ? =D

I feel like his message was directed at a really salty individual that wouldn't stop with some nonsense complaints. If they would just "fix" it to where I don't get matched against teams in Germany when I'm in Texas, then I'd have no other complaints.

Couple of debates going on here, as always when it comes to trials: 1. Elitist sweaties vs. self-entitled scrubs 2. Full on hardcore SBMM vs. less or no SBMM My opinion on Trials is pretty basic: Going flawless in Trials is meant to hard - it's an [i]achievement[/i]. That means a couple of things: 1. Buying the game doesn't mean you are owed a trip to The Lighthouse, you special little snowflake, you. You are owed nothing more than an opportunity to compete, like everyone else. Shut up and deal with it. 2. Repeatedly going flawless in a week doesn't mean you are a Trials God, you elitist prick. It means that the system is broken and you are not being evenly matched. Shut up and own that shit. 3. Carries [i]are[/i] a major flaw in Trials, Bungie-head-in-the-sand-as-usual devs. I don't care about it being done for profit or about a scrub getting a beetle emblem he didn't 'earn.' But, what it does is place and [i]keep[/i] professional players in Trials every week, all week, resulting in many losses for non-professional players that otherwise wouldn't have occurred, along with all of the salt and divisiveness that brings. For the record, I don't care much for trials. Played maybe 2 cards in TTK and now 3 of the 5 I need for the RoI record book. As I am a poor PvP player I do appreciate the bounties - it makes the time I put in (getting curb stomped repeatedly) seem a bit worthwhile, although everything but the gold tier just gave me resources and other crap. Gold gave me gauntlets. So, bottom line - I will never see The Lighthouse because I'm not good enough to go flawless. And that's ok. I also have some integrity so I will never accept a carry to go flawless. And that same integrity is what would also stop me from being an elitist prick and demanding to not have to play my equals, rather than a series of scrubs, if I [i]was[/i] good enough to go flawless.

Okay. So. Lets consider this to be reality. Only the very best players are suppose to ever touch the holy Lighthouse. Lets make that happen. Abandon all pretense. Abandon hope for carries. Make this a game of absolute survival where you depend on your self and nothing else. Put your money where your mouth is. No more elimination. Everyone. Everyone. Gets exactly one shot. No buying new tickets when you lose. You screw up. You're out. Period. Until next week. Each game is 12 players. No fire teams. No respawn. Rumble. Everyone, is a target. Everyone, is a threat. You go down. You stay down. 3 rounds. The top 3 continue to the next round, everyone else is out, ties are broken in a final match between the tying players. Game two on the ticket is made up of only survivors from game 1. Same rules. Game 3 on ticket is made up of only survivors of game 2. All the way to the top, untill you are only competing against players who have survived all 9 other rounds. You survive this last round as one of the top 3, only then, after you have survived through the best of the best, do you make it to the Lighthouse. And you don't get to bring anyone else there with you. If you manage to be top rank in all games, you don't just get something rare or exotic or "adept" you get something held only for the best of the best of the best, because your odds of coming out top rank reduce significantly after each successive game. There. That is your sweaty elitist trials of osiris where only the best need apply. If that kind of sweat house isn't the skill exclusionary madness you're looking for. I don't want to hear someone say that "Trials is only for the best". Because if what I describe sounds just too hard, then you probably aren't worthy of the Lighthouse according to this PVP lead guy right? It's not for people who couldn't survive these.... Trials. It doesn't scare me..... Nor do I think I would be able to make it past tier 2, maybe tier four if I got reeeeally lucky. But then again. I don't measure my worth as a human being on rather or not I visited a fictional area in a video game, it doesn't bother me to fail as long as I worked hard and maybe learned something along the way. It would open up the trials system so that every player has a right to participate instead of excluding solo players, who frankly right now are excluded from all end game content entirely. And as this guy mentions, it would absolutely ensure that average players do not make it to the lighthouse. And if that's his philosophy then they can have at it. But the system they've set up here creates an economy of nothing but paid carries. If this is suppose to be so skill exclusionary, then why are they allowing people to build a business around carrying unskilled players? Most companies actively try to obstruct that yet Bungie appears to be deliberately encouraging it. So. Honestly. All I have in reply to anyone who will reply to this with anger and hatred is this. All I'm saying is if that's what they want, a skill exclusionary end game scenario, then let them put their money where their mouth is.

Trials is the top tier competitive PVP mode for Destiny. It's supposed to be difficult. I played trials the last couple weeks and although frustrating at times its also fun. I'm not good, but the friends I play with are. I'm slowly getting better however which in itself is satisfying. We haven't made it to the lighthouse yet but I know someday we will.

His point would make sense if the game wasn't broken and riddled with cheaters, crappy sbmm that then leads to more matchups with bad connections and cheaters. I miss Halo multiplayer, why was it so good? [spoiler]oh yeah, dedicated servers[/spoiler]