Ok, primary weapons have become pretty much useless. All people do now is stay in the air near Dorr ways and corners and wait to shotgun, or you get titans with juggernaut just pissing people off with the shield and shotgun combo. You can't counter shotguns reliably if ever in this game now. They have nerfed everything to the point where you are forced to run a shotgun just to stay alive. And supremely has pretty much been infested with shotguns since it released. Comon bungie. Give my primary some nuts!
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10 답변I just wish TLW still worked...used to be the best counter to a no skill shotgun rush/slide.
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42 답변Bungie should remove all range increasing perks on high impact shotguns. Make people actually have to be close range to get kills.
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1 답변Supremacy is a unique mode - it's all about short range kills. If you're too far away (sniping or using a scout/pulse) then by the time you get to where the crest dropped from the kill, most likely someone else has picked it up or it has disappeared. Stay in a pack young wolf! Your weapons kill faster if all of you are shooting at the same target, plus if one of your mates gets taken out you can recover his/her crest rather than let it fall into enemy hands. Think Clash, but at close range all the time. So what does this mean? You have to use weapons that are fast kills at short range (or your abilities). This pretty much eliminates most primaries other than hand cannons and top tier auto rifles....but again, you can't beat a 1 shot kill from a shotgun or fusion rifle. I was even no-scoped by a sniper rifle close range. For me, I'm running Invective due to ammo regen and good close range kill power and Soul Stealer's Claw. I'm keeping a good HMG as my heavy to maximize the number of kills from heavy ammo. Supers, grenades, and melee attacks are also very helpful in Supremacy, so make sure to adjust your loadout and perks accordingly to maximize those (multi-grenades, multi-melee attacks, super regen quicker, etc). Finally, consider maxing out your agility. When you make a kill you have to run for the crest - so faster running means you can pick them up quicker and move on to the next target. Equip armor that can give you an armor boost for the sub-class you're running (arc, void, solar, etc). Follow these easy tips and you'll be rocking and rolling through Supremacy mode!
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1 답변Everyone seems to forget about high RoF auto rifles. I've been using Arminius, and it is like a more reliable TLW. Seeing someone run at you, and just being able to shred through them even when getting all body shots, is a nice thing. TLW is still a phenomenal shotgun counter, and good positioning can always get you out of range and being able to shoot the rusher.
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9 답변You don't know what shotgun hell is until you get sniped by an OG feltwinters across the map. Every time you respawn. Until infinity.
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3 답변Fast paced game mode with shotguns like supremacy is much better than seeing six red dots across the map hardscoping, no worries though when trials comes out people will start camping with snipers again, you can watch me shotgun their asses ;)
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2 답변Sidearms work well against a shotgun rusher, unless its a Titan with juggernaut. You could also try paying attention to your radar, helps to descope when sniping from time to time too.
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4 답변Agree. They're definitely overused in Crucible. Given the objective and requirement for CQC, Supremacy is basically shotgun central. They definitely need to nerf shotguns again or buff primaries. But they need to separate PvE and PvP nerfs first.
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You can counter shotguns a lot easier than you could snipers. I'm seeing much more primary usage since they nerfed snipers. Shotgun counters as of now: grenades, evades, melees, jumping, sidearms, fusion rifles, some primaries stand a chance if you're good at aiming and don't try all of the other counters at once, shotguns, running away, team shooting Sniper counters before the update: sniping back, not running down a sniper lane (almost impossible because everyone was sniping at mid range distances- body shotting and then following up with their primary making shotguns and fusion rifles very hard to counter.) I'm tired of seeing people complain about shotguns when you have to be as close as you do to even get a kill. Just watch your radar and your corners, stop trying to quickscope people at mid range, or equip a sidearm or fusion rifle.
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[quote] You can't counter shotguns reliably if ever in this game now.[/quote] It's a positioning game. Force or bait them into rushing you where they have to break from cover and cross a longer distance than normal. If you're standing right around a corner with a primary then you're going to lose.
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1 답변Supremacy and the new maps favor shotguns as they reduced the sight angles for sniper rifles. Supremacy itself favors shotguns because kills aren't important in and of themselves, but rushing for crests is. Team supremacy will be the first mode for iron banner. Pack a Last Word, and a shotgun, fusion or sidearm.
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