Here is a fun little live fire demonstration with a 44 Magnum. 6 shots in 1 second. Watch all the way towards the end when they run the footage from the head cam...an interesting comparison to our perspective in the game. [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7W-5QE3jzw]S&W 629 .44 Magnum 6 shots in 1 SECOND with Jerry Miculek! [/url] This simulates a perceived range in game where we in fact have been seeing high missed rates. This guy landed 6 shots on target to the body...in right at one second. Just some food for thought to put up against all the talk about real-life weapon handling. Granted he is a trained shooter, but you can find videos of normal guys (and gals) doing this kind of thing all over youtube that demonstrate how off kilter this mechanic is in the game. Have to admit this guy is a lot of fun to watch mucking around in his videos. "GET SOME!"

The real problem is expectations. You cannot have a game that promotes the idea of improving ones 'skills' through things like the 'Crucible' and 'Trials of Osiris', and have such sloppy, arbitrary and random game mechanics. There's no 'skill' in rolling the dice or flipping a coin....

Who in their right mind thinks bloom is a good idea. All that is required is a drop off in damage as distance increase. Why make a persons skill and accuracy random? Bungie logic makes no sense again! PVP Is quickly becoming the big joke about Destiny, with mechanics and matchmaking that are out dated or illogical.

I was curious about this post, so I decided to equip a eyasluna with rifled barrel and inspect it amongst scouts it has a higher range than mida, slightly better range than my jury, and slightly less range than my dis-43, I use hand cannons ever now and than, and thought the same thing, but attributed it to perhaps bad aim, but after watching the video, how can one hit crit. And the other not? I'm a believer now, good video and bump

All this time I thought that I was sucking because I wasn't hitting the targets, turns out it was just the accuracy of the guns!?

4 of the top 10 primary weapons getting the most kills in the crucible are hand cannons (TLW, Eyasluna, Finnala's Peril and Hawkmoon). http://guardian.gg/en/weapon-stats?platform=1&start=2016-09-01&end=2016-09-13&mode=10&activity=0 Hand cannons are the most represented weapon type on the list. Therefore, regardless of "ghost bullets" they are the the most affective weapon type. I was watching SC_Slayerage play crucible on and off and he was using Finnala's Peril. He was getting a critical kill just about every other kill in his match, meaning that the first 2-3 shots were registering and applying bloom, yet his final shot was critical. Watching him and Realkraftyy and any number of the streamers that use hand cannons, I don't see them being hamstrung by "ghost bullets." I think they are hyper competitive and using the best weapon in the game, which do have some quirks, but overall are very effective. Even in that video they are skirting the edge of where hand cannons should be effective, yet he still lands the occasional critical, but if you moved him 10' closer, what would the hit registration looked like? My personal experience is that hand cannons aren't for me in PvP. My controls are too squirrelly. 10 sensitivity and aggressive sensitivity for my Elite Controller make precision shots very difficult, so I use a pulse when playing crucible. My preferred weapon type in PvE is the hand cannon and never does it let me down (bigger hit boxes and stagger effects on PvE enemies make them ideal). Anyhow, my point is this: hand cannons are in a good place, despite "ghost bullets" and if Bungie "fixes" them, you'll see a significant damage nerf and increased falloff. Question is, what do you want: faster time to kill with finicky ranges or slower time to kill at marginally extended range? And will it still allow them to be viable against weapons like MIDA and the Hawksaw archetype?

Noticed this nonsense when using the last word. I had to literally stop aiming to kill people correctly. How the heck is that in any way logical. Edit: By stop aiming I mean aiming down sight. Basically just pointing in roughly the right direction was killing enemies quicker than actually aiming for their head?!?!?

Bungie shouldn't waste their time addressing urban myths.

All these people want to get on here and cry about ghost bullets omg bungie triple wreck proved it! We'll a**holes no he didn't he proved that distance effects "accuracy" which is real! If a hand cannon landed every shot from that far away it wouldn't be a fun game anymore, now there is more diversity than ever with weapons, stop crying about your gun not firing right in a video game pick one up in the real world fire it and when that light shines down and you say damn that eyesluna fires like a real pistol would of that caliber, I hope you feel like the idiots you are, and another thing, you all get on here and b*tch about how the game isnt what you want it to be, are you a game developer? No didn't think so, you don't know how to do half the stuff that the sand box team does, so show some respect, this game for me is by far my most loved game I have ever played so be grateful for once and say thank you bungie for all your hard work!

The other part of the straw man is Bungie's response classifying it as a hand cannon issue. As a shotgun user, I'd like 100% of my point blank hits to register. That's just me...

Destiny will never be MLG with random carp like this. When Money is on the line with the possibility of RNG bullets determining the outcome who takes the prize will push competitive competitors away.