Oh boy... [b]DISCLAIMER:[/b] What's in this spoiler might be long, click at your own risk [spoiler]Oryx (at the time Aurash) lived on a planet called Fundament, a gas giant with pits of broken worlds floating around, with her (yes, he was her once) two sisters, Sathona and Xi Ro. They weren't Hive yet, I'll get to that later. So Hive society has these things called Mothers (which are basically Wizards) that live longer than the 10 year lifespan the pre-Hive live so they can make more pre-Hive. One of these mothers, Taox, thought that the Osmium King (Aurash's continent was the Osmium Court, and the sisters were heir to the throne, as they're dad was the Osmium King) was going mad in his later years. Keep in mind, one pre-hive year could be 10 human years. Taox sent a letter to the rival continent, the Helium Drinkers, for them to attack and kill the King and the daughters, as Taox thought none of them were suitable for kingmanship. After the battle the King lay dead and the daughters fled. But before the battle Aurash went to a place called the Tungsten Monoliths and learned that they were the weakest race on Fundament, and if you don't understand something it will probably kill you. So the sisters fled and found a ship. And Xi Ro thought they could sell it at Kaharn Atoll, the Fundaments Marketplace, and buy mercenaries to take back the Osmium Throne. But instead they used it to dig into the Fundament, in search of an ancient power called the Worms. On their way they met the Leviathan, a Sky (Light) supporter and told them if they agree with the Worms they'll have to kill. He also said the Sky's way is harder but kinder. But they ignored him and met the Worms, and obtained eternal life, except if killed in their throne world (think Crota's End). When they emerged they found out that what their dad was crazy over, the Syzygy (real word!), was real, but with the help of a 53rd moon. Yes, Fundament had 52 moons before. This 53rd moon was the Traveler (sound familiar?). That's what the Worms want, to end all of the Light so only the strong remain. So, they were tasked with the power of the Deep (Darkness) to end the Sky (Light).[/spoiler] Good enough for you?

Pretty sure when we massacre a family we stop being good guys. \_(ツ)_/¯

The games story is so bad I don't even know why crota had beef with us in the first place or why we even care about the awoken. That's the only reason oryx is pissed

Traveler left the fallen once they began to get interested in the darkness, the traveler tried leaving us when the darkness was winning, but Rasputin nuked the traveler m, trapping it here

Here's the thing, as far an Oryx is concerned, he is the good guy. He truly believes what he does is right, and what we do is wrong. It's part of what makes him a compelling villain. He's the protagonist of his own story. Here's the thing though, what he believes is right is genocide. He thinks the perfect universe lies is cutting away everything he perceives as weakness until only the "final, perfect shape" remains. He has spent the last several billion years wiping out every civilization in existence in an effort to cleanse the universe. His ultimate goal is the extinction of all life until only the Darkness itself remains. So no, we're not the bad guy. In fact, every fight we've had except [i]maybe[/i] the Cabal is an act of self-defense. If you're interesting in reading a more detailed version follow this link: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/207122257/0/0

Poor oryx, everyone hates him and he gets bullied all the time :(

Guardians are the embodiment of light and dark, good and evil, ying and yang. You're probably right.

Whatever people say we repeatedly kill him over and over again for loot so yeah, we're probably worse

Well it doesn't matter now, he's dead.

Light is white, darkness is black. You can't write black ink on black paper, and that's why oryx is bad.

In a way we all are bad by how oryx and his sisters father was taken and also the eliksni are also bad but also the traveler is the worst cause it was the traveler that left the fallen in there time doubt and so that is why they came to earth after getting most of there species killed but they found the great machine out of nowhere and so that why they killed most of the humans so thats why we are all bad but oryx is the least worst cause he was just avenging his sons death

The point is that its all grey. Nothing is black and white, good and evil, that shits for the comics. Even the 'bad guys' have motivations for what they do sometimes those motivations are for good.

No. First that story is dead and gone. They're not using it. Second, the hive wants death and destruction, we want to protect life. So, no.

Perspective