I mean, do you hate people using them, hate going into a match running into an open area and seeing that red light for just a sec and them smack?! Lol even b.net's famous guardians(not going to name people, but hint they have very good podcast almost every week talking about how to fix the game) are posting about how sick of snipers they are XD. Love those weapons, but bungie needs to do some actual field testing with them(in real life), or play some other FPS. I think Its more of an issue due to competitive game modes like ToO or anything 3v3. What do you guys think? Edit: Do random perk roll on weapons contribute to stuff being called op and or just certain perks? I know its some of the weapons themselves, but is it also some of the perks? I think rolls contribute to weapons being hard to balance(a little). Why can't all purples have the exact same perks and in doing that, you balance team can accurately balance. Example: Instead of the Imago Loop having a range of different perk rolls, set a standard for the weapon bungie(this is just an example people), give the gun the best perks and adjust the weapon as needed. Do the same with all purples, then all you will have to worry about is how fast the weapon kills someone. I mean, all exotic have the same perks. No one has a zhalo that's different. Idk just a thought, something to think about. I know It will never happen.