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6/19/2016 4:33:52 AM
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Is Destiny ingame lore wrong?
Ok, so this is my first time using this forums thing so don't judge me too harshly please. I just have a theory from everything I have ever seen on destiny lore.
Almost nothing is what it seems to be.
From what we know in the beginning of the game people began to explore other planets in our solar system. Then the darkness came along and pushed us back to earth using all of its "minions" to destroy the light. But what I ask is that:
What do we know about our light?
Light is never clearly explained except for being our source of power as guardians. And normally you would think of light being good and darkness being bad, but is that the case here?
If you think about it, the golden age aka the best time of human history ended when the traveler came to earth. The same traveler that came from who knows where and gave us the orders to protect it and protect everything left of the light. From what I know, all this traveler has done for earth is bring war and alien invasions from other planets. This darkness seems to follow the traveler, so then why would it bring this to earth? The traveler in its "dying breath" made the ghosts who went out and brought people back to life to become soldiers in this war on aliens. "You've been dead for a long time" says your ghost after you become fully conscious again and have to run to safety.
The enemies you gave all want you and the traveler dead because it destroyed what they new as life. I think that the traveler came from the alien worlds and destroyed them, and it's come to find safety while being surrounded by the aliens who want justice to be done. The traveler may very well bring an end to earthling lives as it did to alien lives.
I'll say it right now, I don't read much of the grimore or however you spell it cards and I don't need to to know that this isn't a normal thing that you would think of for an army of people fighting for the good side. I mean, come on, in what world do you have an army of zombies and exos fighting off other undead aliens, Giants, time traveling robots, and four armed freaks to defend a giant white ball in the sky. This isn't normal good guy stuff. Along with the fact that everyone, including your ghost tells you that you need to kill everything you see with no second thoughts.
Do you ever have second thoughts?
I've began to, and I also stopped playing destiny for a while so I'm not freshly updated on everything in the game. But those times I go into old missions, strikes, or raids I think and look into the back story of everything that normal people just pass by with no second thoughts.
So now tell me; do you think I'm right?
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1 답변Good an evil are subjective. Even ISIS members think they're the good guys. In that sense, if the light is on our side, it's "good". We're in an intergalactic war. The aliens don't care about our own sense of morality. They think we're the bad guys.
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I've seen this theory around. One thing the golden age didn't end when the traveler arrived. The traveler started the golden age. It took about 400 years for the darkness to catch up. So 4 or 5 generations of humans didn't know war or famine on any of that. So some positive from the traveler for sure. The darkness arrived collapse happens and no one knows how long it has been since then.
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Either way depending on how you look at it. It is good compared to the actual darkness (vex, hive), bad with fallen (Traveller ran from them and they just want it back), and so-so with cabal (assumed to be on retreat from oryx)
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작성자: Onxide 6/20/2016 12:56:44 PMHere's the story. The world isn't just black and white. The Light is supposedly a force of good, and the Darkness is believed to be a force of evil, but what force lies between them? Both forces are needed in order to keep a balance. If there was no good, then there would be no evil. If there was no evil, there would be no good. It's this way because they wouldn't have a reason to exist, they wouldn't have a purpose if the other force ceased to exist. So, back on to the subject of the other force in between them. This is the ultimate force, the idea of perception. Depending on what you believe, the Light can be good or bad, as the same with the Darkness. In the end though, it's all a matter of personal perception and what [i]you[/i] as the player feel is justified.
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1 답변I feel like the story WANTS the Traveler to be good, but there is WAY TOO MUCH proof of the original story (aka light is evil go to Reef and rebel). It just goes to show how easy it is to see Bungie had other plans for Destiny (just spit-balling, but possibly better plans?)
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5 답변Light and darkness are defined by each other. There is no bad or good about either one for they are both necessary for the existence of the other. To illustrate this, define what a shadow is. It's the absence of light and light is the absence of darkness. The only thing that we as guardians are fighting for is survival, which is pretty much the same thing the Fallen, the Vex and the Hive are all fighting for. None of these can really be called Evil in any objective sense of the word.
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The golden age sprung from the the arrival of the traveler. The traveler brought a golden age to the fallen, but it was forced to flee because the darkness found it. Like a user below said, it is a battle between hope and logic, none is wrong, it's simply a different force.
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The Leviathan’s Warning ++We live on the edge of a war— —a war between Formless and Form++ ++between the Deep and the Sky— ++MY EYES ARE WIDE, MY GAZE IS LONG++ —Across the universe, as far as I see++ ++the Sky works to charge its fires— —and the Deep drowns the ash++ —Sky builds gentle places, safe for life++ ++Beloved Fundament, refuge of trillions— —The Sky treasures this rich place++ —BUT THE DEEP IS HERE WITH US— ++Cold logic tests our walls— —The Deep claims its dominion++ ++A ruthless, final age — The Leviathan’s Hope —What power calls you++ ++Down to the deep?— ++What instinct draws you— —Away from high hope?++ —Quick-breeding krill people, I tell you++ ++For eons I have watched your struggle— —Clinging to the sharp edge of survival++ ++Balanced between the Deep and the Sky.— ++You were my treasure— —My proof against despair++ —FOR THIS IS THE DEEP CLAIM— ++Existence is the struggle to exist— —When the struggle seems lost++ ++when the safe place crumbles— —everything turns to the Deep to survive++ ++I REJECT THE DEEP CLAIM++ —You will turn back, sweet krill of hope.±± ++You will choose the Sky instead.— The Leviathan’s Dirge ++This fatal logic++ —Hear my monopole scream!— ++It will consume you++ —Before you lies— ++The worship of death++ —The ruinous path— ++The Sky builds new life++ —Against the onset of ruin— ++Towards a gentle world++ —The Deep embraces death— ++Saying: this is inevitable and right++ —I exist as hungry ruin— ++TURN BACK FROM THE WORLD-KILLING WAY++ ++OR YOU WILL LIVE AS DEATH AND DEVASTATION++ —The Sky is the harder way. But it is kinder.— —My charge is balanced: my voice exhausted.—
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4 답변Neither is inherently good or bad. It's the nature of the respective contracts that separates the dark and the light. The traveler gave advancement in exchange for protection. When we couldn't provide that protection, it tried to leave (Rasputin stopped it though). There is a similar contract with the darkness and the hive, where the hive must conquer to feed the worms in return for their power. If they fail to conquer, the darkness fails it's side of the contract, leaving the hive for dead. The difference is that the hive won and we didn't.
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There will always be controversy between Light and Dark. Whether one is good and the other evil. Those that bask in the Darkness perceive Light as evil. Those that bask in the Light perceive the Darkness as evil. There always must be both and there can never be just one.
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Does it really matter? The Traveler gave us life, but he also gave us a choice. You could have taken the new life the Traveler gave you and just not entered the wall. You could just decide not to kill anymore vex, fallen, hive, cabal, or taken. You could go and live with the darkness, and forget the people of the Tower. No one is forcing you to fight. No, but they asked you to. The people of the Tower asked us to help secure their safety. They needed a hero to help protect the Last City, and they decided to pick us. Do yourself a favor, and go to the Tower. Once there, look down over the railing. See all those people down there, they live their lives hoping that today isn't the day that we fail in pushing back the darkness. That's why I fight. Not for the Traveler, or the Speaker, or the Vanguard, or the Fractions. No, I fight for the people who can't. I fight to do what we all strive to become, Legendary. I fight so that one day, I will be remembered like the ones who fought in the legendary battles like Twilight Gap and Six Fronts. If you ever make it down there, you will here stories of my tales. So I really doesn't matter who is good or evil. You have to choice to walk away from it all, it's your guardian
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7 답변I find it odd that people seem so determined to challenge the authority. It's like no matter what they're told they write it off as a lie because whoever's in charge must be trying to fool them.
