Golden Gun was the only super that had absolutely no armor buff on use. Sure, the GG shots were OHK, and two could drop a bubble instantly, but a stray bullet could literally ruin your day once that super is popped. And I am not talking about a random sniper shot: I am talking about [b]primary bullets[/b]. Someone across the map with a decent scout could drop you while you were trying to do work on his team. No other super for any subclass has that issue - hell, even Shadowshot offers up an armor buff when using it! How Bungie came to the conclusion, at the tail end of Year 2, that a grenade since the beta needed a tweek after hardly a peep was mentioned about it anywhere (save a few posts from ppl bitching about Mayhem trips with Ahamkara exotic) is beyond me. That and the throwing knives - it was such a small niche community of Gunslingers that were profficient enough to spam those things, and get the crits to immediately reset the ability, I have a hard time believing any of this is about "balance". My guess is Bungie is working on something with RoI, and these Gunslinger perks were going to make something extremely easy in the future, hence shutting them down now.

You are 100% right. The game is done for. Listening to 5 yr old kids, that don't know how to play.

I've been playing gunslinger on my hunter and I agree those nerfs were not needed now it looks like I need to go Back to blade dancer

Look they look at the numbers. It was the most used class and hunter as a hole is way more used than the other two. So to try and sway more diversity the nurf was inevitable.

My biggest problem is the nerf to the throwing knife. It won't 1 hit kill enemies anymore in PVE. So it really is a waste of time. I don't care about PVP. But you'll have to remove the medal for getting a head shot kill with a knife. Since that doesn't happen anymore.

Every grenade they have is now ass.

Gods, I agree! and I am a Gunslinger. Bungie, stop messing with the characters. if you HAVE to do something, adjust the enemies' ridiculous strength/defense... give us twists in the missions/boards. Don't take the tools of the trade and turn 'em into gardening tools, man. that's for all classes. If you got a headshot with the knife, you deserve that kill/death. if you were nice enough with the grenade, you deserve that kill. Bad enough you can't stab shyt and kill it, while a Titan will sit there, take a knife and smile, THEN kill a hunter. Y'all are focusing on the wrong things with these updates. Meanwhile, punk-azz snipers are just fine being able to kill you without even aiming the crosshairs properly... c'mon now. Don't touch my Hawkmoon any further. things like these... drive folks to other realms to war.

I agree with the tripmine thing.... Why nerf it? It is hard to stick to someone. But on the topic of balance, why do the supers that are most able to team wipe, with the super only, get OP over shield (arc blade, storm trance, hammers of sol, fist of havoc), while a class like the gun slinger gets little to no over shield? How are having the classes with the most powerful attacks from their super also getting the most powerful ove rshield? How is that balanced? I would rather Bungie restore the OP super attacks and then just nerf over shield in to the ground.

I think balance is an act and not a state. I think that Bungie honestly does a good job with evening things out, the problem is the amount of time it takes them to make patches. I don't want time to kill to decrease anymore than it currently is because I don't want frantic, meat grinder gameplay that is akin to Call of Duty. I know that I'm a decent enough player to be able to adapt any changes and still have fun. ——Hard-Light-4-Life————————

This is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen trip mines are traps not stick and if you uses like a stormcaller and you see a gun slinger you die in a second and not do a bit of damage to it

I don't even have a hunter and I agree, let's start buffing for balance sake instead of nerfing. All of my toons feel less powerful 2 years in as they did week 1.

This is the same kind of thing that happened with pre-TTK last year. The last two game updates make me believe that Bungie is about to wipe everything clean again for Y3. Be prepared for everything you currently have to be junk again. Be prepared to have to learn to how to play the game all over again to adjust to the nerfs again Again, Again.