I run incendiary so..

I strongly disagree with the adjustments they have made to the throwing knives and trip mine grenades. Since these adjustments make no apparent sense i will take this opportunity to predict that bungie has tested these weapons in the new raid and found that they are too efficient at killing and that is a no-no for bungie.

Id just like to throw in that, as a Hunter main since beta, there isnt a single change in the update that bothers me. Theres now incentive to use other perks and grenades, rather than nearly every Gunslinger running tripmines. They arent nerfed, just no longer the best on the subclass.

You know, I mained Gunslinger for a solid few months during TTK. And here are my thoughts. 1. While a skilled tripmine user was very deadly, more often than not they were underwhelming compared to wombos, any other sticky grenade (which really needs another aim assist nerf), and especially lightning greneades. I don't really see why these nerfs happened. 60% of my tripmine throws wouldn't even kill before. If you still main a gunslinger, don't expect to get a tripmine kill on anyone from now on. 2. Throwing knives take skill, unlike many other things in the game. So why nerf them? Do you want to know how many times that I've completely one-shot a low armor guardian with a knife? Out of all of my playtime, maybe twice. Almost nobody runs low armor, so I have no idea how Bungie listened to this nonsense. They seem to listen to the group of 6 people complaining about something, rather than the thousands complaining about much more valid things. Even though I have my convictions about just what goes through Bungie's head, I will say that I am satisfied with the Golden Gun changes, as well as many others. There are things that the super may be able to achieve now. For example, a goldie may be able to pop a titan bubble in one shot rather than two. And you might be able to shoot a striker out of the fist of panic animation even with unstoppable. I haven't tried these myself yet, but an 80% increase in damage with deadeye makes you wonder...

tripmine was to strong, GG was to weak against AI enemies. now it's perfect

Ever think maybe just maybe when people start running the ahamkara gloves for the extra trip mine and maxing out their dicipline stat so they can use more trip mine grenades and it is shown on stats that many players are following that very singular trend? It's a good thing Bungie has made us so many guns and perks to use that everyone gets in the mindset that certain guns are the only choice for an encounter how boring the game would be? Take Kings fall for instance walk in the door with Hung Jury, Black spindle, and a Terminus with life leach. Push past Golgoroth switch Black spindle for 1000 yard stare with triple tap/injection mold/firefly and swap Hung Jury for Touch of Malice. If you are a Titan your choice is to run defender making sure you coordinate with the other Titan who is running weapons then all other stat/perk load out choices are a complete cookie cutter of every other Titan in a raid. The game gets boring when everything stays the same, without change there can be no growth to our skills we are simply walking down the same path as everyone else. Whatever happened to "Become Legend"? When people were able to use more than a specific set of guns and perks and relied instead on their ability to play the game? A legend doesn't copy what someone else has done and just follow the masses, a legend does something different and makes themselves known. You don't make yourself known by copying everyone else and when everyone runs the exact same setup as a game designer you know that you have to be willing to change things up. "Boo hoo, Bungie is so mean they nerfed trip mine grenades and I haven't used anything else for months and all my gear is set up to be able to overuse a single perk"

Lol at all the babies who are calling anything about a gunslinger a crutch. No blink, no shadestep, no garrison, no fire bolts = no crutch. The NERF on this one is BS.

Trip mine may do a little bit lower damage now but it will still kill plus if you throw one at someone it arms then hit the ground and the point blank explosion can still kill people. Throwing knives change a bit annoying then again I always aim for the head with my knives. Blade dancer nerf don't care about I don't even use it. Glad night stalker got some buff and nerfs.

throwing knives are in fact easy to use. i cant even tell you how many times ive killed someone and been surprised it hit. plus take in mind that contrary to what others think the farthest reaching melee is in fact the throwing knife. i also just tested this and didnt really see a big difference. hawkmoon plus throwing knife= DEATh the tripmine thing is questionable. the stickyness im ok with but the damage buff im not sure.