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작성자: Braun 5/22/2016 7:17:19 PM
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Rise of Iron as "fallen DLC" doesn't make any sense.

We killed Atheon. We killed a hive God, and his father. We killed the Kell of Kells. What Fallen are we supposed to kill in this DLC? Because if he's not a God or something, it's going to be easy for guardians, right? Guardians became so powerful that it's hard for me to think about lore and a Fallen boss. [spoiler]I'm just saying this because people are supposing that this is the new DLC and we'll finally get a Fallen raid, and since we are god-slayers, it would be dumb to fight against a kell as the final boss of the game. [/spoiler] Edit: I know Skolas is not the actual kell of kells. I know about the House of Kings. My point is: we could beat a freaking hive god, so it would be easy to kill a kell [i]in destiny universe[/i].
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  • The name feels more like a reference to the Cabal.

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    • Wouldn't a Cabal DLC make more sense for the name anyway? Although; originally the fallen and cabal were supposed to be allies. So possibly we will se some kind of teamwork between the house of kings/cabal? A fight where you have to fight the cabal emperor and the kell of kings at the same time sounds like it could be raid worthy, especially if it has mechanics like standing on plates, object gathering, synchronized killing, and general dps racing.

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      • I want the darkness to actually do something in the DLC or Destiny 2, the darkness should have its own guardians who wield the darkness opposed to the light. We have heard about how the darkness is the ancient enemy of the traveler and really, it hasn't appeared. I want the choice to be the villain!

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        • Killing Oryx essentially won us Destiny. The Cabal, Fallen, Vex all couldn't do a damn thing to him. He took their strongest. We killed him. We are the most powerful thing in Destiny. I'm guessing they will just throw some Deus Ex Machina in there somewhere for lore reasons as to why these "threats" are worth our time.

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          • The art for it shows off the earth the walls we stepped through to start this game so why wouldnt it be about the fallen? The creatures that tore the earth apart and almost put the human race to extinction it only makes sense for it to be a fallen dlc also all of the fallen we have faught have been nothing compared to what the true kell are capable of doing. If the fallen were able to almost wipe guardians from the world why cant they have a raid in which we fight an actual Kell?

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            • Instead of going into a dungeon to kill some God we will be going down into the city on Earth to defend against a massive attack from the fallen.

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              • Randal the Vandal as the boss. Boom.

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                • I think the Fallen used to be an immensly powerfull race. They are formerly known as Eliksni (or something like that). I think they used to be united and afterwards divided and created the Houses. They also used to have conquered many worlds and ruled over them but now the dont even have a home and thats why they are "scavengers" and "Pirates".

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                  • 작성자: lnfected Cookie 5/25/2016 12:11:26 PM
                    WHO CARES, BRUH, [b][u]FALLEN RAID[/u][/b]

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                    • A real servitor god

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                    • Randle duh

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                      • What if it isn't a regular raid... What if we're defending the tower against fallen in some type of a survival mode. The iron lords held off and defeated the fallen in twilight gap. A pivotal point in destiny lore. What if rise of iron means it's the rise of the new iron lords... Us

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                      • We haven't faced a TRUE Kell, so you can't just off and assume it would be easy.... Skolas was a pretender.

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                        • Sorry to bring up something different but the moon is lead by the House Of Exile and I have no info on them go die to the fallen on the moon if you think I'm lying

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                          • We should team up with the fallen to destory the travler

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                          • It will be some underwhelming location reusing map areas and game play that we have already paid for. They will make up a new villan that loosely fits into the Grimorie somehow. They will use it as a carrot to delay Destiny II release because they can't get their crap together making promises they will redefine later after they have your money.

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                          • The only fallen boss I could think of being worthy for a raid would be a somehow surviving chelchis, kell of stone. An ahkamara in a future dlc would be interesting.

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                          • It's all speculation at this point and as we all should know by now, things change

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                          • Nothing is set in stone yet, I agree fallen is the wrong direction for the game. Personally I like the idea of a kabal raid. Either way I'll be happy cause I'm so bored with the taken.

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                          • 작성자: Saladman's Iron Banana 5/24/2016 8:25:16 PM
                            You know he only called himself kell of kells lol. He lead a broken fallen clan after escaping from prison he never actually was the kell of kells. That was a title he gave himself. We still have yet to defeat the remaining fallen clans. Not to mention we arent sure how powerful the fallen are weve only seen there broken pirate clans not there offical forces like the cabals main forces jusy broken clans scattered around the galexy. Theres a lot we dont know about the fallen or the cabal. Everyone thinks cabal would be a better fight but they would be no better then the fallen as far as we know. What do you want amother vex raid? Why? Another hive? Were all damn tired of the hive.

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                          • Well, What if Skolas happened to enrage the real Kell Of Kells and awakened him and he was just taking his place tell he arrives?

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                          • The House of Kings still remains a mystery. Also, it's still a mystery why they are called "Kings", btw... A Fallen Raid would make great sense, IMO, since we don't know how big the actual houses are. Maybe the Raid is about preventing an actual counter attack on the city? Who knows.

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                            • Randal the vandal & greg the dregg

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                              • We can beat a hive God due to the fact that they follow sword logic in which each hive we slay makes us more powerful, hence how we built up from crota to war priest to golgoroth and daughters and oryx

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                              • Would make more sense to me if it were Cabal related. They hold the Iron Line, they are currently the most mysterious of our foes, and they are the only end boss we haven't had as of yet if you count Skolas among Atheon, Crota and Oryx. We have no idea what the Psions can do. They may even be able to subvert guardians with their psychic powers (they may BE guardians for all we know, they don't seem to be the same species as their Fifth Element looking big bros).

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                                • 작성자: TrolleyProblem 5/23/2016 1:04:53 AM
                                  First off: skolas wasn't the kell of kells. That being said, he was nowhere near that power. Some where along the line (most likely when xur released him), he got those obscure horns... horns of a gargantuan beast that gave him power (tainting light), but sort of made him audacious or arrogant enough to call himself such (not that he wasn't before... he got the half of the wolves that weren't killed by the harbingers killed or captured) ... like that of the ahamkara... Any way, the real kell of kells is essentially their god-god. So yeah. Skolas was just a captain/baron who went on a power-trip and consumed WAY too much ether. He was just a tad stronger draksis. Barely that much. Secondly: it kind of does. Yeah, the cabal launched off that distress beacon months ago; meaning we might get an Armada of cabal soon. But we have to remember that the cabal here are just some slaves and exiles. To top it off, they accidentally got here. They were fleeing from something and found Sol. They then detected some powerful thing on Mars (most likely Charlemagne, Rasputin, or the black garden entrance) and decided to stay here. That being said, I'm sure the cabal empire doesn't see saving a few surviving exiles and slaves as top priority. That or they did a pit stop in alpha centauri to blow up some meteorites. The fallen however? They have a reason to start an uprising. Yes they've pillaged countless human outposts, and have done much more. But ever since we got in the picture they've been getting their ass handed to them. They already got pushed out at six fronts. And then they lost at twilight AGAIN and the devils lost their kell. Then we came and killed their archon and their prime (riksis and sepiks). Then draksis died. Next askor fell. Then the wolves attempted a rebellion versus the queen after their loss of their original kell during the reef wars. Suffice to say; didn't work. And they lost keksis, and skolas! Then they tried to rebuild with orbiks on Mars, and boy did that go wrong. They've got nothing. And if they don't do something soon, they'll die out and have never gotten their great machine back. Except their is still the house of kings. As variks said: "house devil plot, house kings [b][u]PLAN[/u][/b], house winter attack, house wolves circle, house judgement... waits" It is well known that house kings has been plotting since the loss at twilight gap. And they've had control of house devil since then as well. And without draksis, and their prime Mia; winter needs leaders. We saw how quickly they decided to fall to skolas' ranks when he came. It's been long enough. The kings want to regain control of their great machine. We were saved at twilight gap. The queen distracted and nearly eradicated house wolf. And those such as Ulan-tan, Lyssa, eriana-3, ana Bray, saint-14, and Osiris protected the walls. And on top of them, the eliksni were pushed back by the iron Lords: similar, radeghast, saladin, segoth gheleon, efrideiet, perun, Timur, skorri, and felwinter. They were thwarted by these guardians and the second generation. But they are all gone. The queen is out of our contact, and Uldren is stranded on Mars. Saint-14 is Mia. Osiris is exiled and will not return to the charlatan. Ulan-tan, ana, eriana are all dead. Same goes for many of the iron Lords. Saladin is the only one who remains that we still have contact with. They have gathered information. And they want their great machine back. Once and for all. [spoiler]we also can't forget that the only reason we beat oryx was due to the fact that he was reckless. I mean, he was already pissed his failure of an heir died. But to put salt to the wound, WE were the ones that did it. You know entities infused with the light of alpha lupi (traveller). The same thing that started the god wave that destroyed fundament and forced oryx to go into symbiosis with akka. And he didn't have the ability to take us since we're already dead. Meaning he lost a lot of battles he could've won. Had oryx had the ability to take us, been more calm and collected, and had savathun and xivu been here with him; it might not have been such a happy ending for us.[/spoiler] [spoiler]also, it's only your guardian and the 5 others who were with you in the raid that are "as strong" as a hive God. Plus their is sword logic which basically means you killing oryx doesn't matter. If their is an entity that killed more enemies that were stronger than those that oryx killed, then that entity IS stronger than oryx, and in turn you.[/spoiler]

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