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작성자: Feral Goose
5/22/2016 1:15:24 PM
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Bungie, please bring back reforge >_>
Seriously tired of seeing people with a .3kd get party crashers, ash factorys and eyaslunas with god rolls when your top players typically get shafted. Tired of getting the same super shitty rolls on these guns. House of Wolves was the best time this games ever seen, ever. Why? Because when we got a weapon with shit rolls, we could keep it and work with it until it fit our playstyle without having to slave grind shitty matchmaking connections in hopes of that one roll you've been looking for. Its like seeing performance bonus and rangefinder on a party crasher then seeing it only has mutiny, perfect balance, or hand laid stock. The -blam!- kinda shit is that?
p.s. you should revert blink to y1 standings and fix your -blam!-ing melees (again, which were also perfect in y1 btw)
I'm drowing in my tears of disappointment over here :'(
[i]Edit : If you tweens come on here with your sour attitude and snide remarks, dont act so surprised when you get buried in return. Those who have valid arguements against and for reforging that aren't troll wannabes, please keep sharing your thoughts and having actual conversations like our community should[/i]
[i]Edit 2 : There has been a lot of yay and nays from the community but we all know if it came back you'd be standing in line for a reroll like everyone else. I'm not saying the previous system for reforging was perfect, and there's been a lot of great ideas posted on this thread that make it costly, and similar to armsday, or even limited to IB only. This quoted post from MMMIKE was also a very interesting idea on how to work with reforging.[/i]
[quote]I thought of a different system that still makes you "earn" your perks. I call it fusion.
Say you get an Imago loop with outlaw and reactive reload. Then a Devil you know with Icarus and Firefly. You can then go to your Imago Loop. Go to reactive reload perk slot and choose fusion. Then select the devil you know and it'll change the reactive reload perk to firefly. You can customize your weapons how you want it using perks from weapons you'd otherwise dismantle. Guess it should only work using weapons of the same type.[/quote]
[i]To those that say it broke the game because of OP perks, well, they fixed most of the perk trees and removed the most op ones due to the nerfhearders. I'm sure you all know we have 30 million registered accounts, but how many people actually still play consistently? The answer is not many. When people feel like the playing field is fair and balanced because luck isnt giving another an extreme edge or that the loot system is actively working against them, they're more comfortable and likely to step foot into the crucible or heroic playlist and more likely encouraged to keep playing the current content. To those saying 'it ruins the point of a loot shooter', I'd say you've never really played a game with real rng. No trading and drops are class specific only? Go play Diablo or even WoW to understand a real rng loot system, not a half broken and heavily weighted 'rng' system. I also want to thank all those who have shared their opinions among their peers peacefully without being dicks to each other.
[b][u]Remember this is our community, and we should be more respectful to each other and proactive as a whole.[/i][/u][/b]
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1 답변That fusion idea seems decent, but there would have to be safeguards in place, e g. The weapon you are fusing has to be the same weapon type , that kinda thing, or it could get awkward.
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1 답변They should bring back a form of rerolling. Not how it was in House of wolves. That rerolling system was broken. They simply need to a more functionality to the gunsmith or xur. Once a week you can give your gun to xur or the gunsmith. They can add a quest line to unlock the rerolling feature. It will give guardians the opportunity to get a gun that's usable. We'll have less nerf DoP conversations. Why? Because there are many others guns out there, that could compete with the right roll. It's not going to ruin the grind for loot. The game is a grind already. It seems to me that there are many guardians, that do not want to be legendary.
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2 답변작성자: CptRJ 5/22/2016 5:41:07 PMAids, delete this post. Reforge renders every gun pointless to get, as actual 'players' try to get god roll or good rolls from packages n crap. All you need to do is buy the gun once and roll for a god roll, which everyone will have. They should give you a choice wether to get a gun or armor from packages though, love getting cloaks n bonds n shit.
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2 답변I don't think they should bring back Reforging tbh. This is exactly why everyone had Matador/PC with Shot Package, Rangefinder, etc. aka, the Sniper shotties. However, if you're still desperate for Reforging, grab some QW weapons from Y1 PoE, and reforge those.
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2 답변-blam!- reforging. What they need to do is fix their piece of shit RNG system. Make rewards weighted more towards time/effort spent. Players on the bottom of the leaderboard still have a chance to get a god roll drop but, make it so that the ones on the top have a higher chance of getting a god roll drop. BTW, reforging brakes the grind factor in Destiny. Being able to reforge weapons means less time spent playing, as you only need to get the weapon once. From Bungie's standpoint, it is not in their best interest to make players play less than they already are.
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4 답변Reforging i think is wrong people already complain enough about how great one godrole weapon is. If the introduced a system that let you earn perks like if you don't like a perk in slot one you can start a perk bounty that is like get 50 precision kills and it will re roll the one perk. Each bounty would get harder each time and you can only role like 2 perks on the gun then you'd have to get a new weapon and try again.
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2 답변No. God no. I'm still paying off the debts from the last time*shudders* 50000 glimmer and God knows how many weapon parts and motes to roll an Ill Will with LitC, Final Round and small bore. That's just one gun. I've probably spent more on a Her Benevolence trying for ambush and clown cartridge. I'd want it back but I also don't want to be broke until Destiny 7.
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6 답변I don't think I'd really like Reforging to come back in the same way it did back in Y1. Part of the fun, for me at least, is the suspense that you get when you're trying to get that perfect roll on a gun. Yes RNG sucks, but the feeling you have when you finally get X weapon really is the highlight for me. Some may disagree with me, but IMO, the reforging process took away all variety. EVERYONE had that single weapon with the perfect roll, and nothing else ever was considered. While that still exists even now, I feel it was way worse back in Y1. Now, I do like MMMIKE's idea, that sounds interesting, and could potentially make the dismantling of X weapon and infusing it into Y more interesting. Might make keeping those blues a bit more worth while. However, I just feel that by keeping that "carrot on a stick" it gives players that drive, that desire to keep pushing to getting more loot, in hopes of getting that perfectly rolled gun. Like it or not, this is indeed a looter shooter, and if you manage to get the absolute best of the best right out or shortly out the gate, what incentive do you have to keep playing the content? Now, I do feel that the loot drop just needs to be increased. The April patch was a step in the right direction, however, there is still room to improve. Bungie should just make the engrams freaking rain. Even if it's a dozens and dozens of blues, it just needs to freaking rain. There's a reason why Boarderlands and Diablo do well as loot based games IMO. As for MMMIKE's idea, I think some very strict conditions must be applied to this. Perhaps make it expensive to mod, and the weapon that you're modifying must be the same type? I don't know. I can respect that players would like to reduce the RNG nature of this game as much as possible, but at the same time, it worries me that such a system may cause more damage and benefit the game in the long run.
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4 답변Tripod/velocity/proc rocket. Crowd control/perfect balance/? LMG. Glass half full/hand-laid stock/headseeker pulses. Outlaw/rifled barrel/reactive reload hand cannons. Crowd control/hand-laid stock/glass half full auto rifles. Crowd control/perfect balance/firefly scouts. If rerolling got added this is all you would see ever again.
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I don't get the rerolling fanfare. Everybody had the exact same weapon yet people complain about weapon diversity. This community is weird And I hate the idea of rerolling. It cheapens the experience of getting a great roll on a drop.
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3 답변Although it is absolutely stupid to have reforging back. I want a PvP roll on my Lord High Fixer. Also I believe it to be balanced (let me explain) Because if there isnt reforging, some are getting god rolls and some are getting absolute shite rolls. If we have reforging people can have weapons they play best with and it ends up spreading out the meta more. I dunno its just something to think about
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4 답변Sights make or break primary weapons for me, I'd love reforging back. I still reforge old weapons now and again, got myself a god roll on my Silimar's Wrath a while back and rerolled a Deadshot Luna that dropped in PoE a few weeks back.
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3 답변I see Reforge as like getting Exotics with 3oC compared to getting Exotics through Strikes, Crucible Drops. Whenever I get an Exotic Engram now, I feel "Meh". It devalues almost all weapons and with God Rolls being a thing, everyone was running the same thing. Back in the day, when reforging was a thing, almost everyone was running Spare Change and Hopscotch Pilgrims. Like it or not, it is a loot and shoot anyway. Grinding is part of the game. Those with more time will tend to get more chances for better loot, no doubt. But I love The Hunt for getting the perfect Roll/Exotic. If they reintroduce Reforging, there won't be a hunt. The Hunt is keeping you playing right?
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1 답변I'd like to see a system where you specify weapons as either pvp or PVE, and once marked they can't be changed. In order for the reforge option to show up, you must lock a weapon for PVE, that way it doesn't mess with the balance of crucible, but gives PVE players a better opportunity to obtain weapons that best suit their playstyle....
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3 답변I say bring back the reforge option, but have it work like an armsday order: you leave the selected legendary weapon with Banshee, and on the next armsday he'll have a new roll on it. The catch? You may leave one weapon with him at a time, and you only get ONE perk roll choice per armsday. This would prevent people spamming the feature, but you'd still have a guaranteed new roll! If unsatisfied, just leave it for another week.
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1 답변I agree, but also disagree. I dunno if I want everyone to have god rolls on everything. It'd be a tad bit too much.
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1 답변I agree we need reforge. Pretty tired seeing scrubs with <1.0 kd's get the best rolls on guns while I get squat
