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Bungie, please listen to the community. We voice our opinions because we care

(This will be a long post. Holy wall of text batman! But seriously this is going to be really long. My TLDR is my title) Let me preface this by saying that I absolutely love this game, and any criticism or ideas I have for improving it come solely from how much I want the game to improve, and I mean no ill will towards the game or its creators. Seriously, thank you for making this game. I have met some amazing people through this game and I have had so much fun playing it. But let's tone down the fanboyism, and talk about some serious changes that need to happen in order to freshen the game up. Just like with The Taken King, I want my eyes to light up with wonder with new things to explore and do, and for this game to surprise me at every corner. Instead, most of the game hasn't done that expect for a few special areas. (Hello Vault of Glass, and the first time we got swords) I also want to say that I know I'm not a game developer. I won't try to pretend I understand the amount of coding or work that goes into these things. And I certainly don't feel like Bungie has to listen to me. I'm just a guy. But putting my opinions and ideas for the game out there is the only way to share them with others, and I can only hope people will care enough to at least read my thoughts at approximately 6am due to lack of sleep. Firstly, let's talk about necessary things that alot of community agrees upon. I don't speak for everyone, but these are hot topics in the community without a doubt. 1.) Dedicated Servers. Peer to peer connection simply isn't a good way to do this. The lag spikes and unpredictability not only effect the Crucible, but can effect raiding. 2.) Custom Games. Please let us choose to play with friends. You've already seen how the community goes out of its way to schedule tournaments, help a brother out. In addition, let us create our own game modes like back in Halo 3.) Ranked and Unranked playlists. I want to choose if I play sweaty or not. I have no proof to back up my next claim, but I currently feel like the system with the Crucible is rigged. You're purposefully set up to win sometimes and you're purposefully set up to lose, to try to make it appear as if there is a 50/50 win ratio for all players. That's ridiculous. Just let games be games. If a team gets stomped, we have the Mercy ruling, and it breaks up unfair teams afterwards anyways, so the next one is a fresh new pool of people. 4.) Bring in the exotics that never came. Please. Warlocks need some boots, and Hunters need to be frosty. (If you have anything else I missed that the community has all been voicing, please share. And I'm not talking about nerf posts. I mean real stuff, thanks!) Thanks for making it this far! But wait! There's more! Now I will add my personal ideas that could be used as inspiration to improve the game possibly. Again, I don't feel bungie has to listen to me. I just hope they do 1.) Multiclassing! As a huge fan of RPG's and D&D (Which inspired countless video games), multiclassing has always been a huge factor in designing and customizing your perfect character. Perks could be replaced in certain columns and (With restrictions!) players could build what they would like. Players could choose a single multiclass build in a fourth slot and level it up. If they wanted to change it, they would have to delete it and level another. That keeps players from spamming different builds constantly and finding the most OP one. But still allows everyone to migrate to what they would want to play as. Are you telling me you don't want to be a shadestepping knife thrower? Or a shoulder charging Sunbreaker? Or a juggernaut Defender? Or a scatter grenade throwing Stormcaller? Or a firebolt throwing Voidwalker? Or a blink shadestepping Bladedancer!? No one can say no to these things. Don't deny it. And for those who say it's OP in Crucible, yeah I'm sure some builds would be a bit unfair, but honestly I don't have a problem with that too much. But if the community was against it, I wouldn't mind limiting the playlists multiclassses were allowed into. 2.) The loot system feels so backwards it's hard to believe. Why is an Imago Loop 1000x more rare than a MIDA? Isn't Imago Loop a lower rarity level? Legendary drops need to be ten fold. I'm not kidding. I've grinded so many strikes since The Taken King, and I've received 2 Imago Loops. 2. Wanna guess how many Hawkmoons? Yeah, me either. Exotics aren't rare at all. Certain legendary weapons such as the aforementioned Imago Loop, Grasp of Malok, Eyasluna, and Stolen Will, are all so much more rare. Personally I think this should change. Three of Coins flooded people with exotics. Maybe they should have worked with legendary drops instead. 3.) Certain perks are simply useless. When was the last time you got Partial Refund on a weapon and thought how excited you were? ...wait, you haven't... ever?.. that's right that perk is so useless, half the readers would need to look it up while reading this because they've never even heard of it. It's such trash. A chance to refund a portion of your magazine on an assist. Whew. Talk about garbage. Same with Exhumed, Vacuum, and so many more. Please buff these. Just like when you buffed Mulligan. Remember when it was terrible, and now people agree it's a decent perk? Me too. And this goes the other way as well. Anyone else have war flashbacks of the terror of shot package? The imbalance between how amazing certain perks are and how trash others are astounds me. 4.) An even more in depth infusion system. If I get a weapon without the perks I want, what am I to do? Throw it away in the heaps of other weapons in my vault that could have been amazing given they rolled just a bit different? I don't think so. What if the system was changed so that if I infused something into something else of the same type (Sniper, Shotgun, Gauntlets, etc) I could choose one of the perk nodes to replace another in the something that's being infused. For example, I have an LDR 5001, without the Ambush scope, at light level 280. I also have a Weylorans March with the Ambush scope at light level 335. When I infuse the March into the LDR, it would be nice to choose to bring the Ambush scope with me, same with other perks such as Hidden Hand, or Last Resort. (I would have to infuse separately for each node) This would let people build their perfect weapon and armor builds, and be able to achieve their personal god rolls while also bringing it some sweet sweet grinding that you at Bungie love so much. It's like somewhere between the old reforge system and the new infusion system. I might add I don't think exotics should work with this system. 5.) Make encountering other guardians worth while. When this game was advertised they talked about how you can run into other guardians doing a strike or patrol mission and meet them that way to make this a more immersive experience. But every time I do, 99/100 times, we part ways like nothing happened, and when something does happen, it's just a wave or a mini dance session. What if there were secret missions that gave exclusive cosmetic gear that only triggered when two guardians ran into eachother sometimes? They would work together on a secret mission issued by the vanguard and complete said urgent mission and get rewards. (If they were in a strike, their teammates could be informed of this and 2 man it until the teammate returns). That would be so immersive, and it feels more realistic, and gives meaning to this "Shared world shooter", as Bungie calls it. 6.) Bring back the year 1 stuff Bungie. No need to overhaul the Vault of Glass or Crota's End, just up the light level and let us get that gear at higher levels. If the burn damage on primaries is still an issue in your minds, just remove it from the year 2 versions, no biggie. The year 1 strikes that were brought forward could add in even more strike exclusive gear. Like the Devil's Lair strike. Could you imagine if it gave a strike exclusive servitor ghost shell? That would be one of the coolest things ever. Phogoth could give a warlock bond that were chains, and perhaps a weapon as well. So many chances for new things Bungie. (This includes all year 1 exotic armor and weapons) 7.) Custom Shaders, Ships, Emblems, and Sparrows. Why do we get nothing for dismantling these? A whole ship and nothing worth keeping? But really, what if Eva Levante had her own ranking and with each level you could build your own shader more in depth. And by dismantling a shader, you could add in one of its colors into your pool to use to create your own shader. Same goes with emblems. And Amanda Holiday could work the same way to build your own Sparrows and Ships. This is all cosmetic bungie, nothing but upsides to this. 8.) Make the Grimoire come alive. It would be amazing to get to play as Shaxx at the battle of Twilight Gap, or as Eris Morn in her journey in the darkness, to defend the city like Saint-14, or to feel the corruption of the darkness take us over, like Dredgon Yor or Toland, the Shattered. To get to play these things would be so incredible. And even to play through the Books of Sorrow and get to experience gameplay as Oryx. Seriously. 9.) Space ship battles. Nothing more. And bring back SRL with even more stuff! The more variety this game has the more of a crowd you'll bring in If you read all this, seriously thank you. Hard to believe someone listened to my rants as long as you did. If you Guardians have any ideas, please feel free to share! And for the Nth time, I don't think Bungie needs to listen to me. But it's cool just to share my ideas with the community. Thanks again! Th-th-thats all folks!! [spoiler]Ninja Edit: Moved this to #Feedback[/spoiler]
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  • I'm sorry for bothering, but what does it mean "TL;DR"?

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    • Well said guy. bump

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    • I feel like Cosmo and Deej listen to us, then they go to the programmers and are like: the community wants this, do this! and the programmers sit back in their chairs, sip their beers, and say stuff like this (from Bungie employee Luke Smith): "I think matchmaking can make other players disposable to you…The reason that people quit out of strikes is because there’s no consequence to their departure, just a punishment for that disposable person on the other end of the line. It’s pretty hard for me, emotionally, to want to subject groups of players to that. What’s not hard for me to think about is a version of Destiny that makes it easier to look for and find groups to go engage in difficult content with, a version that helps bring people together in a way that the current software doesn’t." [http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2015/11/02/bungie-explains-why-destiny-matchmaking-for-raids-isnt-implemented/ ---November 2, 2015 by Alex Co on Playstation Lifestyle] I'm glad you want to "bring people together" and that it's "hard for you emotionally" to implement matchmaking. What is "hard . . . emotionally [for me]" is believing that you're lazy enough to make up such a half-assed excuse to not put into practice a system that is already successfully used by tons of games. Come on.

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    • Dedicated servers are never happening. Get over it or move on.

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    • Bumpity bump bump. Great read very fair and realistic expectations except for the class mixing. That would need to wait til destiny 2

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    • Bungie ignores the community, because the community is filled with bitchy, whiney brats. Nuff said

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    • Aside from "bring back Y1," most of this is feature requests that would take D2 to be brought in.

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      • I would like to see a system where you build your own gun. Maybe you have to collect the perks you want on your own gun before you can build your perfect weapon, kind of like the way you had to find a spell before it was available to you to use as an enchantment on a sword in Skyrim.

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        • Heads up this is very -blam!-ing long. They could add a crazy event in patrol. First, change the patrol to 6 people because you will need 6. Make this happen twice a day, on a 12 hour cycle. Spawn a Enemy (and lets say there are 3 diffferent types of bosses with there own loot set) with raid like machinics that can drop very exclusive gear. More than strike exclusives and is a guarantee drop of a item you don't have. First off this event will stay for lets say 10 or 20 minutes. Adds spawn constantly, from both the darkness rooms people can't enter and ships or teleportation, depending on the type of boss, for this case it would be teleporting in. This boss is -blam!-ing crazy looking, it would be a vex Minotaur with some armor pieces floating around it with some form of electricity going from the floating armor piece to the armor attached to the boss ( i can picture it in my head but idk if anyone else can lmao) To make sure everyone knows of the event, the vangaurd calls in and says "gaurdian we are getting reports of a vex warlord in your area, Take. It. Down." (im not good with dialog but it would grab your attention) But this boss would bring some magical form of lightning down from the sky covering a large portion of a certain patrol area, just to make sure everyone knows it is going down. To start the lightning spawns in a ageis shield and you use that in patrol. In order to deal damage to the boss you need to deflect the lightning that he summons with the shield at him(using the clense button and be looking at the boss as it hits the clense sheild), when you do this, the floating armor pieces fall down and a random part of his body exposes a crit point. When you bring him down to 75% health, he stops summoning lightning and will instead of shooting at you, send one part of the floating armor at you, at very high speeds and then have it float back to him slowly. He also takes the shield away from you, in order to start dealing damage again you need to find a way to keep that armor piece from floating back to him. How you do that is by having him launch the armor piece off the map. ( it will give some clues on how to do that in the chat i should also mention this boss is located in the first area on the right when going to patrol on venus) When his armor goes flying away off the cliff, it gives you maybe 10 or so seconds to deal damage, you do double the damage than you were before he got to 25%. When he is at 50% health, he summons lightning down again, but it is just in small clusters around the map, not a large portion. He also spawns a vex goblin that grants quad damage to the person who killed it. You need teammates to DPS down a floating armor piece. when your team does enough damage it falls off, exposing the crit spot, the person with the buff does quad damage, everyone else has -75% damage dealt. When he is at 25% health, he will teleport a random teammate every minute to a random part of the patrol zone, He will teleport up to 3 people. They must all find the ageis and use the super at the same time to bring the armor down and expose the crit spot. You can't ever drop the shields, so that leaves 3 people for DPS. Unless of course you have randoms help you. I should mention, this would be nearly impossible for just a group of randoms in patrol to do. So adding optional matchmaking in patrol will be needed, this way they can all get together in a group chat and figure out how to do this. If you plan on doing the event, the parts where you pick up shields, or anything that really would require communication, will only happen if your in a fire team. If you just roll up and start helping, you will never be teleported, only there for DPS and add control. If you join in to help without a fire team, depending on how much you help them depends on your reward. People who complete this are gaurnteed a max light armor or weapon the don't have from this specific boss yet. If you join in and do very little to help you will get that armor or weapon but not at max light, and it will be marked when inspecting it to show players if they really did help on this OP patrol boss, or if they didn't. I should also mention the armor set will look like the bosses armor. SO for this set you will have mini pieces of armor floating around you as electricity runs from the floating piece to your armor on your body. That is the theme i guess you could say for this WHOLE set, including weapons. You can also get a exclusive exotic from this event. For this one it will be a fusion rifle. The exotic perk grants a extra bolt in the burst to fire for every bolt that hits a target with a max of 5 bolts being fired This also has chaining effects but damage done from chain damage does not count as a hit. (fusions fire one shot that contains between 5 or 7 bolts per shot if anyone doesn't understand what im saying) So lets say i shoot a raid boss and every shot hits, it would basically fire another round but wouldn't count as a second shot. And if there are any adds around the boss, sometimes there are. This fusion would chain to those targets. It is basically a upgraded version of Zhalo. The theme for this exotic also has little armor pieces, or pieces of metal floating around it with the electricy running through it. If you read this much good -blam!-ing job and props.

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        • I can imagine playing as Dredgen Yor. Thorns for days!!!

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          • You mean nerf this nerf that? This is all I ever hear from this community.

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            • Ahhhhh, the "UPDATE WE WILL NEVER GET" rises in spirit again!!! I wholeheartedly and completely agree with every song point you made. Why does Bungie hold back?? Most all the suggestions seem like no-brainers. Take transmog, it's been at THE TOP of the "official community wish list" since it was started, and either shortly before or after we get that "helmet always on" toggle, and the devs go on about how it was such a simple quality of life improvement to implement, TRANSMOGRIFICATION/VANITY WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT!!! It would give us full aesthetic customization, as well make every single item in the game relevant again for looks alone! GAME IS FULL OF GREAT LOOKING YET ULTIMATELY USELESS ITEMS!! Why do they hold back? My guess is they have to figure out how to monetize it.

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              • Destiny 1 will NEVER have dedicated servers. Never. Don't waste your time. And partial refund is an OK perk on a sniper. I find myself getting bullets back from assists fairly regularly and I like getting bullets back.

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              • Do you not understand by now? They don't care, there done with Destiny 1 , they've moved on to Destiny 2. Why do you think they just reskin guns and bring back old strikes ? You will never get this in current Destiny period

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                • How long did this take you to write?

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                • Bungie. Read this post. Please.

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                  • Lol you may care but Bungie doesn't care about you. Them and Activision just want your money and you drones just keep shoveling your money to them

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                    • I would love a custom armor set. Maybe you can synthesize armor pieces to gain their aesthetics, and then you can use those Aesthetics in a Blueprint type mode to create 3 light gear with no perks. Then, you can feed this gear perks. So, infusing armor into it doesn't bring up its light, but adds all the perks of that armor piece. Each additional infused armor piece alters 1-2 of the current perks by replacing them with the perks of the infused piece. You can lock up to 2 perks on your piece of armor with glimmer and "Founder's Seals", which you obtain from synthesizing armor, and as reward drops. Once you have the perks you want, you can form the piece, buying it for glimmer, legendary marks and rare Planetary materials. (Think hadium flakes, but on different planets). Once formed, the perks are locked in, it is equipable, and you can infuse it to higher light.

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                    • Some pretty great ideas here. I don't really like the subclass mashup though

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                    • Oh come on. Bungie operates under the "everyone gets a trophy" philosophy. Quit being a chooch.

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                      • THAT POST HAS TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGIZE!

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                        • SWEET JEBADIAH KERMAN! WAAAALLL OF TEEEXT!

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                        • TL;DR: Bungie should scrap the game we have now and just make another game. Also, [b]they did listen to us[/b]. The April update was a point-by-point answer to a number of complaints/wishes. Before you call me a fanboy, look at virtually all my other post. Nearly all of them are some form of criticism on the state of the game. But if Bungie thinks we don't recognize when they do listen to us, what incentive do they have to listen to us again?

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                          • For the shader idea, if they added more chroma colors we could take extras and added them to a blank shader to make them the color we choose.

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