{{
`${userDetail.user.displayName}${userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode ? `#${standardizeBungieGlobalCode(userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode)}` : ""}`}}
{{getUserClans()}}
작성자: E-Sentinel
4/21/2016 7:40:49 PM
287
Being a good shotgunner is harder than being a sniper. *Discussion*
[b][i]Effective Sniping Requires[/i][/b]: Mobility, a steady hand, good hand-eye coordination, and superb aim.
[b][i]Effective Shotgunning Requires[/i][/b]: Situational Awareness, Quick Reactionary time,and the ability to prioritize targets.
Now let me say this, I'm not saying shotgunning is harder then sniping. The average sniper is better then an average shotgunner. But a good shotgunner is definitely better then most snipers.
Sniping isn't as easy as it looks, but you have to look at a few things.
If you put a sniper at one end of the smaller hallway and a group of 4 on the other, a good sniper would have no problem taking them out 9/10 times that situation happens.
[b][i]Now[/i][/b]
If you put a shotgunner in a room with multiple exits with four enemies around him, they have to worry about a few things.
[b][i]1.[/i][/b] How many enemies are here
[b][i]2.[/i][/b] What equipment do I have to help me survive
[b][i]3.[/i][/b] Which enemy is closest, and which presents the biggest threat.
[b][i]4.[/i][/b] Is there anyway to get out of this alive, if not, how many can I take down.
Now before people attack me saying I posted this because I can't snipe, I usually play on striker titan, and shotguns compliment the class well, also because titan skating is extremely effective once learned. (As seen here https://youtu.be/3zuv1awyl0w)
Because the amount of hatemail I get for titan skating up to people at 100 MPH and sticking the barrel of my shotty down thier throat is ridiculous. [i][b](No I don't use Juggernaut, Shoulder Charge builds up way to much speed for me not to use it, I dont tank the shots, I just move fast enough to disorient people)[/b][/i]
Basically, in terms of learning curve.
Good Sniper > Good Shotgunner > Average Sniper > Average Shotgunner
Thoughts?
English
#Destiny
-
4 답변작성자: Darches 4/21/2016 7:46:21 PM[quote]Now before people attack me saying I posted this because I can't snipe, I usually play on striker titan, and shotguns compliment the class well, also because titan skating is extremely effective once learned. (As seen here https://youtu.be/3zuv1awyl0w)[/quote] Woah, WOAH! How the -blam!- did you swap weapons so fast? Strikers don't get Quickdraw last time I checked. If I they did they wouldn't suck IMO.
-
2 답변
-
What several streamers have said like kjhovey and luminosity that I agree with is that shotgun skill comes more from movement skill, where snipers are more gun skill oriented. I have to flat out disagree with you that a sniper can easily kill 4 guys running down a hallway. The majority of the time you will get killed by four guys staring you down in a hallway
-
2 답변The problem is the fact that the average shot gunner gets more kills than the average sniper because of the fact that it is simply easier to kill people with a shotgun than with a sniper but that might just be me because I like using primaries more than secondaries.
-
I think both require a decent amount of skill to pull of effectively. I personally find shotgunning so much more fun. The games boring enough as it is..... Unless it's laggy, never get close to someone in a laggy lobby..... Like ever. Weird shit happens lol
-
3 답변작성자: G4League 4/22/2016 1:14:37 AMWhile it may be true about being faster is better. Though Titans are supposed to be the tanky class. We can still get counter shot gunned or chuck sniped by people. I run juggernaut perk for that safety net. So if I know as I am running. If someone saw me I know for sure they will try to take me down before I get to them. Having that extra shield will allow me to wait until they shoot first then I will ask the questions later kind of situation. That shield can tank 1 sniper shot/ shotgun burst for you. Sometimes it tank me a golden shot (bullsht) yea I know. And that shield can take a few beatings off primaries. Closing the distance between you and your opponent is, make no mistake, a key point when initiating a "gunkata" (look it up) kind of fight. [spoiler]up close and personal[/spoiler] But I do applaud your other points though because by no means, that is the requirements for using that certain gun type. I still don't understand why people still bother with CQC sniping, they are just asking for it. I run a Universal Remote with a fusion rifle. I don't go for long range engagements. CQC is where the real fight happens. But I do recommend you have a weapon with crowd control.
-
I think they both require different skills, so you can't compare the two. The play styles are so different and the skill set is so different that it is hard to compare them. But, I think that sniping requires a lot of situational awareness as well. When to use your sniper and when to not. Go for the body on a guy rushing you or go for the quick headshot? A lot of good snipers will body shot a guy rushing them then clean them up with their primary. Example: True Vanguard is probably one of the best snipers in the game. A lot of his kills are cleaning up body shots or funneling them through a choke point.
-
작성자: xPLASMAx21 4/22/2016 12:48:13 AMI played Year 1 entirely as a shotgun-wielding Defender and I have the, frankly, abhorrent stats to prove it, I swapped to a sniper in Year 2 to try and distance myself from that toxic playstyle, and I've been flirting with fusions ever since people started calling snipers unskilled. Regardless, from what I've seen, done and had done to me, you have a point here. As a shotgunner in Year 1 you really didn't have much to worry about outside of another shotgun and TLW, you could happily run a lap of the map and pick up kills along the way. Now, it seems like making use of the air and positioning in general is much more important. Unfortunately, which shotgun you use is still too much of a factor in your ability to get kills with them; a decent sniper can pick up any rifle and have an alright time, to use a shotgun requires a perfectly-rolled, high-impact scattergun which creates a really stupid Y1 shotgun meta that needs adjustment. I think it should also be noted here; positioning seems to include a lot more camping than before, more so than most snipers, and grenades are playing a larger part in shotgun builds in general, meaning most are Sunsingers nowadays.
-
1 답변작성자: Iyrha 4/21/2016 7:25:19 PMThis should be marked (somewhere in the post) as a discussion, rather than a statement. There is no way to statistically or factually prove that shotgunning is harder than sniping, and vice versa. Yes they both require some different and some of the same skills, but there are too many variables and inconsistencies to definitely state which one "requires more skill" without sounding very biased.
-
1 답변Your requirements for shotgunning are more than applicable to sniping too, especially applicable
-
In my opinion Destiny's multiplayer maps cater to Shotgun players more so than snipers. The combination of extremely small maps and numerous ways to break line of sight IMO allows players to close distance rather easily. In a scenario where the game's maps are more CQB focused a shotgun is going to be easier to use than a sniper.
-
1 답변
-
Yes, I agree. I get hatemail all the time, and I'm a warlock. People are like "F*ck off camper". I think it's really stupid that people think shotgunners are campers; they're not. They require lots of skill, like you said.
-
1 답변Sniping is harder with shotguns all you gotta do is get close Pull trigger Optionally bag
-
It honestly depends on the type of shotgunner and sniper. If it's a blink shotgunner that gets his kills by camping, he's a disgrace and sucks ass. If he's constantly running around and just going into a group without any second thoughts then he's a good shotgunner. If the sniper is one that literally sits in the same spot all game and never gets within 50 feet of an enemy then he's a scrubby ass sniper. If you see a sniper moving all over the map and getting kills while using his primary from time to time then he's probably a good sniper.
-
In my experience, bad players are easier to kill with a shot gun. Snipers are fairly easy to be average with in this game, so bad players use them often. These players only real chance of getting kills are praying their uncoordinated drag scope hits. If you counter snipe, they may accidentally kill you (lol). Push them with a shotty and they have no shot. A real good sniper can take you out before you get to close. (Create space, body shot/switch to primary).
-
3 답변작성자: Kirby235711 4/21/2016 9:42:41 PMI haven't been able to use a decent shotgun in forever. Mostly because shotguns and PvE don't work well together. Though I will say this: in PvP against several people shotguns take more skill, but against a couple people snipers take more skill.
-
21 답변작성자: The Warrior 4/21/2016 8:58:13 PMThere's no such thing as a "good sniper" in this game. What's the drawbacks of camping in back of an open lane? That's right none. There's no weapon sway, descoping or any real downsides to using a sniper just shoot in the general direction of a head and get a kill or shoot the body then switch quickly to primary. It's a beta crutch weapon /thread As a shotgunner you have to worry about being team shot, numerous primaries and secondaries with a fast ttk from mid to close range, finding best angles to navigate the map, other shot gunners, etc... Starting a game, sprinting then camping at an open lane with your reticle stuck at head level requires skill...okay. Snipers are a popular weapon so of course people use idiotic mental gymnastics to defend their crutch
-
3 답변
