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작성자: UNIT 242 4/1/2016 5:38:36 AM
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Wow Destiny is now pay to "win"

[b]EDIT[/b]: Alright maybe not to "win" but certainly to "gain an advantage very quickly over non paying users" and undermine players who earn their gear through grinding legitimately. Regarding the "cosmetic" armor. You can now buy as much armor as you want until you get the perfect stat/perk roll Then due to the new infusion system, you can bring that perfectly crafted armor into the end game at top light level EXAMPLE: So if you get a 320 drop from King's fall now, you don't like the stats too much and you deal because that's the highest the armor can go. Or you infused one piece of gear you EARNED through another activity. Now I buy 100 armor pieces until I get a perfect set of stats/perks and then infuse it with the top light level drop I get. So before you had to settle and now you can pay to optimize your gear set. EXAMPLE 2 You slave away every week for the hope of a chest piece with a high DIS/STRENGTH roll with rocket launcher ammo and solar armor for a chestpiece for your Sunsinger warlock. It takes you ages to play enough to get one to drop with those stats/perks and looks good. You do a couple of raids and infuse that thing to 320 after infusing it multiple times. Someone else just payed 200 Silver to instantly receive the same chestpiece. They do a raid and now make it the same light level as yours. They paid to get a perfect chestpiece with no work that a free user has to hope for in a drop after playing the game for a long time. How can you guys not see the pay to get ahead aspect of that? A paying user gets the same gear a free user does at a much faster rate with less work to get the gear, with the almost the same work to infuse it. Oh if you don't know the new infusion is 100%. So a 335 gear infused into 3 gear is 335. Edit 2: "YOU RETARD IT'S ONLY 3 LIGHT! HOW IS THAT PAY TO WIN? WHAT AN IDIOT!" ^People in this thread who didn't read the post and don't see the real issues about what this means both now and for the future of this game going right over their heads because they are too busy thinking what emote they should buy to distract them from the taste of Bungie's cock in their mouths EDIT 3: HAHA -blam!- ALL OF YOU SAYING THAT THE GEAR HAS 0 STATS. THE WEEKLY UPDATE SAYS THAT ALL GEAR WILL HAVE THE PERKS AND STATS AT RANDOM AND NOT TAKE ON THE STATS OF THE GEAR INFUSED. CALLING ME A MORON WHEN I WAS RIGHT AND ALL OF YOU WERE WRONG.
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  • Wow. Thank you my friend. At least one other person understands what's going down...this might do it for me. At least I found ark...

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  • bang on guardian.. although I didn't see the cost for each package.. and thinking back to using motes to reroll for god rolls.. it was 30-40 even 50 motes to get those great rolls.. thinking of this here.. with your example I can't imagine a package costing less than 100 silver which is 1 dollar/quid unit of currency in your country.. thinking about 25-50 dollars per item is a hefty price for a suit of armour.. and then the weapon.. you are right.. it could be looked at as pay to win but, its still a gamble.. hell of a gamble at a high cost.. can't see it being a viable option for that majority of gamers.. but, I do see your point.. its a slippery slope bungie is resting at the top of.. how long before its abundantly clear pay to win at a cheap cost will infiltrate the game.. this is the back door route.. soon that front door will be wide open for all to walk through for a few dollars.

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      I wasn't able to watch the stream, but I'm assuming we can buy armour pieces that drop with random stats at the cost of Silver and infuse that up to the max? Correct me if I'm wrong, I will watch a recap later.

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      • Tell me sir, are you retarded? Did you even watch this stream? Because if you did, you would see that the stuff from those packages drop at 3 defense.

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        • People pay to go to the lighthouse on Twitch, nobody seems to blame twitch or the streamers for anything. THATS pay to win!

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          • Forget about the pay to win. Being able to buy items ultimately takes away what we liked about the game, being able to find that cool piece of gear and getting hyped about it. Now you can just buy it. I was always for microtransactions as long as they were cosmetic stuff, and I will buy all the shit coming with the update because I love this game but I seriously think its going to hurt us in the end.

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          • PSA: Light Level 3 is not pay to win, and you get (from what I read from Bungie) 3 per week for free...

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            • His blue robes is making him WIN!! CURSES!

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              • OP, I do not think this is going the way you thought it was gonna go.

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                • All that armor is defense 3 so either way you are going to have to run endgame content to make that stuff worth wearing. Not really pay to win imo

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                  • That was my question as well. I wasn't able to watch the stream just read about. Can you buy unlimited armor? Are [i]all[/i] armors going to be for sale? I can buy 100 of all armors and infuse all the best ones. Equip armor and if all my armor pieces have "god rolls" then that's a big advantage. It isn't quite win to pay but it's headed that way.

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                    • So the main thing is as far as I know the drop from the box is random so I mean you can get like 30 of these and all become boots armor wise.

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                    • This is a slippery slope for sure. First it was emotes. Then sparrows (and that infamous SRL book). Now we're up to armor. Weapons are probably going to be next. This new sterling treasure system looks familiar to BO3's crypto key system (which is causing a LOT of controversy in various forums and YouTube).

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                      • You make a good case. It is indeed pay to win. It looks like bungie crossed the line on this one. They lied

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                      • 작성자: BuckTeefKeef 3/30/2016 8:27:49 PM
                        I read what you are saying and i get it. Think like this though. That guy who paid for 100 packages paid money for his gear. How did you get yours? For free by playing a game you enjoy.

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                        • Only exotic armor gives any advantage. Cosmetic looks on armor is nothing to get your panties in a bundle over.

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                        • Okay then change the title of your post.

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                        • Lol no matter what gear u get u are always going to get out gun by better players or a bad one.

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                          • This sucks. I don't feel so bad for not playing in about a month.

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                          • Buy God roll gear check, then infuse your high light level gear into that God roll gear. Same light, but better stats and abilities. Not paying to win. #satire

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                          • The cosmetic armor doesnt have stats unless you infuse them

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                          • Lmfao the gear has no stats idiot when u infuse it it takes the stats and roll from that helmet dumidiot

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                            • I disagree with the eververse gear, but honestly the whole update is a shambles, that said 3 armour gear is not gonna give you any kind of advantage apart from looking good, your argument is frankly silly.

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                              You people drive me crazy. You don't -blam!-ing listen. The armor you can buy drops at [b]3 light[/b]. You have to infuse it with items that [b]drop from playing the game[/b] to even make it worth using. That is not pay to win. God damn. Idiots.

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                              • You people drive me crazy. You don't -blam!-ing listen. The armor you can buy drops at [b]3 light[/b]. You have to infuse it with items that [b]drop from playing the game[/b] to even make it worth using. That is not pay to win. God damn. Idiots.

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                              • TL;DR. As soon as you said they gain an advantage I quit reading. Can someone explain to me how have armor with 3 light gives you an advantage?

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