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3/30/2016 11:38:32 AM
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Iron Banner this month is an Objective Nightmare for Support Players
I was pretty pleased to see Control come up as the rotation this month's IB, but about 6 matches later that feeling has been vanquished. You see, I like the more objective based PVP modes since I'm not that great at shooting other players, but I can get sh*t done and that includes capturing points. However, such an approach is ruined when scrubs go into the matches just looking for kills and seem blithely unaware or apathetic of the fact that the more zones you control, the higher your score.
I have literally just come from a match where my "team" were purposely hanging back from Zone B and trying to treat it as a killzone, which is a sound strategy WHEN THAT ZONE IS UNDER YOUR CONTROL, but pure idiocy when it isn't! The amount of times there 3-4 players in a position to charge the zone and did absolutely nothing was staggering, and the other team were just lapping up the points as they had perpetual control of 2 zones for the entirety. This also leads me to believe that many players haven't figured out that winning matches earns you rep as well.
I really think the bounties of IB need to be more representative of the game type you're actually playing, e.g. capturing a certain amount of points within a match/day/week. If all the bounties remain entirely kill based, then IB might as well be permanently set to Clash.
Anyone else feeling similarly deflated by this?
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4 답변The part I hate....at the start of the game 6 players are not needed to capture the first flag. I usually push for B and find myself all alone and out gunned. ...or I capture B just to get overrun and no back up.
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2 답변I'd play IB control over the others any day. Banner should stay control. It just feels right, perfect combo of killing and objective. What they should do is keep 6v6 control at all times, and add a free for all IB into the mix. IB rumble would be a nice addition
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Same happened here! I was on Black (whatever the new cabal map is) and my entire team was trying to control the center room and was completely ignoring CPB, only myself and one other player were actually trying to win I guess... despite pretty much lone wolfing it, I finished out top on my team, but we still lost. What the heck people!
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3 답변The bounties need to be tuned around the game type. Someone trying to get their 10 kill streak isn't going to be capturing zones.
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4 답변I still see a real problem with spawns. Why on Earth am I spawning right beside their entire team? Please tell me Bungie!
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3 답변Same sentiment as yours. I mostly play solo and usually ended up as the one with most captures but the least kills.
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1 답변작성자: IScrub WreckerI 3/31/2016 2:38:47 PMControl is just Clash with points controlled as a kill point modifier. True story. That being said, I've been in lobbies where the enemy team held 2 points, and we held one. We farmed them the entire time and won. They were great at holding ground. We were great at slaying. *shrug*
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That was well written and I agree with your analysis. I love playing Iron Banner and always enjoy the challenges. As a "supporter" it is difficult to achieve the bounty requiring us to be #1 in the match (overall). Possibly, this bounty could be re-written allowing the option to be either the top overall in kill points or the top overall in control capture points. This will definitely allow all your user the change to complete this bounty.
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6 답변Control should only garner points from flags captured, kills should count for nothing (except be recorded on your K/D)
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I played an iron banner game yesterday where I was the complete best player in the game at the end. I had the most kills, the most captures and highest score. We lost. By over 10 thousand points. Games like that are the worst, because I as an individual simply could not have done any more but my team just didnt seem interested in the captures. They were just running around and getting shot to s**t.
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1 답변작성자: Geronimo731 3/31/2016 11:38:08 AMThe issue is that people don't defend the zone once they capture it. Everybody wants to run and take B, then move on and take C or A and flip the spawns. This is the exact way you lose the game. You never take the enemies spawn control zone or else the spawn will flip. There are certain maps where the enemy spawn zone is better to have, in this circumstance you take their zone and allow them to take yours but never take your initial spawn zone back. Kills still count in control. If I have 35 kills and 2 captures with 6900 points, seems like I have done my job. Get more points and we would have won.
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People have been playing Iron Banner as "Clash but with those weird letters hanging around certain areas for some reason" since the Beta Iron Banner. People need a course or something in order to enter that's just Shaxx saying "capture the zones" fifty times.
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I had the worst game last night where the enemy team had control of all 3 points for literally half the game! Myself and 1 other player seemed to be the only ones attempting any captures only to be over run. Sometimes a game can turn into the battle for B, and no one wants to try anything new
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3 답변작성자: Jason 3/31/2016 5:46:53 AMThere is always that moment, like earlier today for me, when you have 7 captures, ur friend has 5, and everyone else in the team has 1 or 0 and you loose the game
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I think having IB as clash only mucked up IB control even more, to the stage where I've done matches on my alt account this week where only myself and one other captured any zones. You'd think when you're told at the start to capture and control, people would understand but there are too mamy stupid players out there that believe all you need to do is kill other players. Yes. When we have two zones firmly under control, go ahead and go crazy... But when we are struggling to hold one zone because teammates who should be helping to hold the zones just run straight past you when you are desperately capturing a zone to stop the opposition from having all three, it isn't on. I've seen too many players running past zones without capturing them, leaving the only soul doing the hard work of capturing open to an assault, death and failure to capture when three or more from the opposition come at them and they're alone.
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I rarely ever play IB without my clan because randoms just can't be trusted and cause to much internal rage. Only thing I'd recommend is Fireteam chat, but you risk exposing yourself to kids who will increase the previously mentioned rage. LFG would be the other option stating you're looking for an adult group.
