I agree with you man, The Division is good in its own way but from the start the game has hardly any content and replayability compared to Destiny at launch. If both games came out at the exact same time on the same exact day, even if Destiny didn't have any of the DLC put into it, Destiny would still win because of its replayability. The Division is a long grind to level 30 with zero fun put into the grind, and the game starts to get very enjoyable after you reach that level. Destiny however had a very fun grind to level 20 and a hard, long, and fun grind to level 30. Also before people begin to say "NO, I CANT STAND GRINDING THE SAME MISSIONS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN ALL OVER AGAIN," think to yourself, people already did for an entire year on Destiny, and they will continue to do it. The Divison has content that gets annoying after doing it once, the DZ is the only new and fun place that quickly gets stale. TL;DR - The Division has less content, less replayability, and a lot less fun than vanilla Destiny.

When I play Destiny I feel immersed in the world, enjoying the scenery, taking my time just having fun. When I play the Division I feel immersed in the world, enjoying the scenery, taking my time just having fun. See, it is possible to enjoy 2 different things at 2 different times. We are too impatient and spoiled to enjoy what we have in the gaming community. Game technology has grown exponentially thru the past decade or so. So come on guys, relax, sit down, grab your favorite beverage, put on those wireless 7.1 surround sound headsets, pop in your favorite game (for the moment), and enjoy your life. I can tell you, from being someone who doesn't get alot of time to game hardcore anymore, I take my gaming time seriously and enjoy it just as seriously. Cheers mates!

Anyone else but me notice severe eye strain when playing the Division? I can run raids all weekend long in Destiny and have had some marathon Batman sessions but after a couple hours playing TCTD my left eye twitches like crazy.

[quote]Is anyone surprised that another boring cover based third person shooter isn't very good? All you people need to do is stop buying these games and they'll stop making them. Then maybe we can get games that have souls and were made by people who didn't treat art like a mindless corporate grind[/quote]

Angry Joe actually gave The Division a worse rating than Destiny. He gave Destiny a 6/10, and The Division a 5/10.

Why do I keep seeing '&#39' on some posts?

and playing Destiny makes me want to play nearly anything else :)

Lmao Destiny sucks

In my opinion, The Division is a better game than Destiny.

"but I can see that the end game revolves around pumping countless bullets into heavily shielded tanks for hours." I think you haven't played destiny, because this is exactly what destiny is too

Destiny has heart, The Division does not. Destiny has kind of taken on a life of its own with all the funny little things in the game. I doubt The Division will ever feel that way

Whaaaa? You came to the destiny forum to say you like destiny!!! Well color me stupid...

[u][b]Them Notes Though[/b][/u] Patch Notes 1.0.2 New patch notes have been released Gameplay Named enemies. will now drop better loot in Challenge mode than in Hard mode. Added a cooldown period for the Static Turret stun attack in order to avoid a stunlock in PvP and PvE game modes. Named NPCs will no longer respawn after being killed in the Open World. This will prevent situations where players were able to kill a same named NPC over and over again. Fixed a speed run exploit for the Rooftop Comm Relay mission Fixed an issue where weapons dealt no damage if the reload animation was interrupted by an agent’s skill Fixed an issue where players became stuck in an emote animation if activated via chat while auto running Fixed a bug where skill power would be increased permanently while using the Death by Proxy talent Fixed a bug where experience was not being awarded for completing all side-missions in the Midtown East safe house Fixed instances where the Seeker Mine with Airburst / Multi-mine mod would detonate too soon, miss targets or cause no damage Fixed a bug where grenades would sometimes not display the blast radius warning before detonating Fixed an issue where some NPCs in low cover would not react to being shot by the player Fixed issues where emotes would cause the player model to behave oddly (missing guns, player stuck in emote animation, etc) Fixed a bug where weapon mods and weapon skins would not show up on other players in the game world Fixed an issue where DPS would not be calculated properly when purchasing a new weapon mod Modifications to the weapon talent: Trained. It can now only be rolled on Shotgun, Marksman rifles and Pistols Its bonus has been reduced from 1%-5% to a constant 0.1% For the Midas SMGs, Trained Talent has been replaced with Responsive Talent which increases damage when getting closer to the target. This applies to existing weapons as well as newly acquired ones For all SMGs, LMGs, and Assault Rifles, it will be replaced with another randomly picked weapon talent. This applies to existing weapons as well as newly acquired ones Dark Zone Players can now heal other neutral players in the Dark zone, by using First Aid and Support Station skills Players are now able to fast travel to Dark Zone checkpoints, but only when coming from outside the Dark Zone The Dark Zone disconnect timer has been increased to 30 seconds, meaning players will remain in the game world longer when logging out while in the Dark Zone (this applies while not in combat) Items extracted from the Dark Zone are now properly marked as "new" items when moved to the players inventory Players killed in the Dark Zone now drop ammo, medkits and grenades. This loot is generated and not taken from the dying players’ inventory Players killed in the Dark Zone will lose less Dark Zone Funds and Experience (Rogue and non-Rogue) Dark Zone Funds and Experience rewards for surviving Rogue status have been improved Dark Zone Funds and Experience rewards for killing Rogue agents have been improved Increased drop rate of High-End items from lvl 31 and 32 named NPCs in the Dark Zone. Increased drop rate of High-End Division Tech Material from lvl 32 named NPCs in the Dark Zone. Dark Zone Funds drop rates and quantity on NPCs has been reduced. Fixed a bug where the Wildfire and Fear Tactics talents were affecting neutral players in the Dark Zone. Fixed instances where players would receive a DELTA error message when entering the Dark Zone Fixed a bug where sometimes players could not loot anything after returning to the game following a network disconnection Fixed Stage 1 Rogue timers not displaying correctly when Rogue players receive damage from another player Phoenix Credits drop have been increased on lvl 31 and 32 enemies in the Dark Zone: Lvl 30: 1-3 Phoenix Credits Lvl 31: 2-4 Phoenix Credits Lvl 32: 3-5 Phoenix Credits Improved Dark Zone Chests items quality: Rank 30 chests will now drop Superior (Purple) items instead of Specialized (Blue) Keys chests now have a chance to drop High-End (Gold) items Graphics Fixed a few lights that did not cast global illumination UI Added more information for Daily missions on the Map Tutorials have received some UI polish The Matchmaking menu now displays the mission difficulty rating more prominently The mini-map mission tracker has been optimized to be less confusing to players Fixed a bug where some of the attributes for high-end equipment were cut-off in the recalibration menu Fixed a bug where the Matchmaking menu for a mission would not display correctly or kept disappearing Fixed missing item icons in the Reward Claim Vendor's inventory Fixed incorrect side-missions being displayed in the Map legend Audio Fixed a bug where the helicopter crash SFX would be missing from the Brooklyn end cinematic Fixed a bug where the Zapper Turret mod had no sound Fixed a bug where the audio for entering a contaminated area would be cut-off Fixed a bug where audio would not play when scrolling through vanity items Localization Fixed Ubisoft CLUB reward descriptions in Korean and Traditional Chinese In-game localization bug fixes PC Tobii Eye Tracking bug fixes and improvements On launch, the PC client now monitors PC graphic settings and applies the best settings for the user’s configuration. This is unless the user has custom settings. Fixed an issue where the Map was sometimes difficult to navigate with a mouse Fixed issues with Hungarian, Korean, and Russian localizations Fixed an issue that prevented matchmaking while on the Map Removed the Store button from the Character Selection screen on PC versions of the game. Players can find the store page in the Ubisoft CLUB app directly Fixed increment number on Day 1 Patch Notes (was 1.1, now correctly states 1.01) Xbox One Fixed a bug where players could not reconnect to the servers after suspending the game on Xbox One Fixed a bug on Xbox One where unblocking a player would not be reflected in-game until title reboot PlayStation 4 Added an option to disable the PlayStation 4 controller speaker Improved textures and models streaming speed Fixed an issue where ISAC volume could get too loud when playing with headsets

Don't understand how anyone who has been playing Destiny since launch. Play another game and say I am bored and go back to playing Destiny. That's a special kind of stupid right there

[quote]We all played Destiny way too much [/quote] I lasted less than 2 weeks. Destiny made me want to play .... anything that wasn't Destiny. Your thread, like others here, is opinion. I didn't enjoy Destiny. in over 30 years of gaming i've never found myself so bored of a game in such a short space of time. The Division is an average game, it's nothing special, yet i've found myself enjoying it far more than I enjoyed Destiny. For me, Destiny is not the better of the two games. For a game that has been out barely 2 weeks, i've played it longer than Destiny. An average game that does nothing unique and turns into a bit of a grind at end game is more enjoyable to me than Destiny ever was. Plenty of people have found some enjoyment in it, quite a lot of folk are playing it.

Opposite for me, division makes me realize that I'll never play destiny again. I'll be playing division for months in the future.