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1/2/2016 10:07:18 PM
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so when is pve players going to be able to get max light level rewards with out doing raids

I'm very disgusted when my friends who do iron banner get 320 gear and I cant. I don't hate them for it its not there fault. I HATE pvp and will never pvp this is just bull crap I want to be able to get good loot aswell not have to wait a week for another half ass chance ill get 1 in the last month there has been pvp event to help help all the pvp players but you totally fail to give players anything. all I see is that discriminate against pve players anyway you can. hell they can grind there eyes out doing what they love to do and get rewards but pve players don't get squat
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  • That high light is meant for raids, or IB, if you aren't going to participate in those then you have no reason to get that high. Only raid I imagine taking 4-6 hours would have been VoG back in Y1, just cause certain aspects take a hell of a long time. King's Fall? With a good team, you can best that somewhere around 2 hours. 4-6 hours of time would be the time it takes for me to carry players who are completely new to the raid.

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  • Obviously no one understands your post... This post is basically asking why pvp has a hardcore and softcore and even easycore way of getting g 320 loot. That's Trials, Iron Banner and probably SRL if it comes back. Pve side has the raid... Just the raid. That's all the pve players have to get higher light level. Now, if Queens Wrath type events happened for pve crowd, there would be equality to both pve and pvp. Me personally, 320 is no care to me because it's probably going to obsolete down the line anyways.

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  • This post should 'be deleted. You don't want to raid and you want the best end game pve gear? You hate pvp and you refuse to play end game modes such as trials or iron banner. You're definition of a joke. Go play some quest lines and complain how you want the experience/items but don't want to run the missions.

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    • If you don't want to raid or go into Trials/IB, why do you care if you're over 300 light? It will make zero difference in all other activities in PvE.

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    • You don't need max light if you're not gonna raid or play Trials/IB. There is literally no point. Calm down, eat a snickers.

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      • 작성자: logikbrooklyn 1/5/2016 7:06:29 AM
        They build complex, 6 man, endgame content strictly for PVE. You say "PVE gets discriminated against"

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      • I suck at PvP but I still manage to hit rank 5 in srl and IB with almost no trouble. You don't even have to win to get good drops. Yes it sucks that the only ways to get top tier gear is IB, trials, hard raid, and srl, but it isn't that hard to do. What really sucks is it being almost a month between getting a single drop that is actually useful to any of my characters doing all of those.

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      • 작성자: cig smoking tgirl 1/5/2016 6:28:24 AM
        I would recommend editing your grammar before I take your point seriously. [quote]Its not there fault[/quote] Improper grammar, dude. It's their, not there. Hate to be so serious about it, but honestly. Also, add some punctuation.

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      • I can feel your sentiment honestly. I don't really raid either, lfg is fine, I just don't really have 4-6 hours at a time to do a raid. Nor do I have the desire to invest this time in one sitting (done vault and crota a couple times each) I'm not a huge fan of pvp either, but I'll grind IB and SRL when they are around just to get some better stuff. This is a game of grind afterall. I was stuck at low 290s for the longest, but just got up to 301 with my main from this past IB. I think that's pretty decent for a non-raider. I do think it's not ideal that I probably won't get much higher than this until I raid, but hey, no grind no shine..

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      • There's [b]3[/b] types of gamers in Destiny #1 PVE #2 PVP #3 PVP and PVE All can get max gear. So my friend if you don't like pvp and consider yourself a PVE player raids are your options. Now if you don't do the raid which is the best reward on PVE why do you even play? Now if you do both like most of us you will have an abundance of gear. Best of luck.

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        • Where do you want 320 gear without doing a raid, from strikes? The raid has challenges that GUARANTEE 320 gear, as in you will always get something 320 if you do the challenge.

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        • Hate to disagree, but every major mmo with gear progression requires players to participate in designed endgame content to get the very best gear. Makes sense to me, but then I've been around since Everquest and Ultima Online.

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          • Are you even a pve player if you don't raid? IB and trials are end game pvp content and reward accordingly Raids are end game pve content and reward accordingly

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            • The only time that happens if the go do iron banner or trials if your a PvE player then u must do end game PvE so the answer to ur question is no.

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              • I agree PVE gets the shit end of the stick. I do not do PVP at all it's annoying to me in the sense of dying every 10 seconds. This goes for any PVP game in console history.. I miss the days where you could do story mode and enjoy it. W/o having to be connected online. Nowadays if you don't like multiplayer you can't even buy the game. Requires to be online etc bullshit. Destiny is focused on pve for one thing. PVP is destinys 10 year long haul of hope to stay alive. But IMO year 3 will determine that big time. I would love to see something like waves of bosses with end game earnings for pve players (( you know survival modes etc ))but again destiny thought court of oryx was just that & it wasn't.

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              • Never noob, learn to play

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                • 작성자: Krantzstone 1/4/2016 6:30:29 AM
                  Also I too would love to see more PvE content that isn't Raids, and has matchmaking. I mostly PvP but when that's aggravating I like to do PvE things solo or maybe with one friend. I'd love to see a Tower defense-type game, maybe even a literal defense of the Tower against incursions and invasion forces as a public event, or outposts in Patrol that require defending, with bases being protected with the help of fellow Guardians and NPC helpers/bots. Maybe have a few new shopkeeps there with new gear and weapons, etc. Maybe with a huge boss at the end which requires multiple Guardians a long time to defeat, with Raid-level drop opportunities. Losing to the boss would have actual consequences like having the outpost/base overrun and losing access to those new shops/gear.

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                  • 작성자: Rustymoose13 1/5/2016 3:20:51 AM
                    Never lol because a raid is part of pve Also you don't need to be above 300 if you don't do raids iron banner or trials

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                  • This post ... lol.

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                  • Same!

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                  • 작성자: SABRA 1/5/2016 3:09:33 AM
                    My problem with Raids being considered PVE endgame like everyone says is that unlike PVP there is no matchmaking option. So unless you have 6 friends on at the same time you can't do it. This isn't an issue in PVP, Bungie should offer a matchmaking alternative to the raids for PVE players. I don't get the venom some of you are spitting at the OP he's only asking for the same variety that PVP gets.

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                  • Grind? If you're not raiding and /or playing pvp YOU'RE NOT GRINDING! You are missing out on all the End Game Content! You have no one to blame but yourself. Btw GRINDING is having 100+ CE completions without getting sword breaker. Grinding is 30TTK HM completions and not getting a 320 HM Helm! You don't deserve something if you can't put in the time.

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                    • Lol what is this. Hating PvP but won't raid lol. Wtf, is this the twilight zone

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                    • When Destiny actually lives up to its hype. Which is never.

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                    • I think the raid is a good way for it, minus the battle with the infamous RNG. Long story short, the raid is the hardest PVE challenge they have therefore it should reward the player with the best equipment. I have never completed a raid, and have searched alternate methods such as IB. But to complain that they are leaving you out is malarky. A simpler fix would be add matchmaking to the raid matrix instead of searching LFG for ever to find a team who doesnt limit attendance by requiring certain weapons/light level. I have felt the pains of the "forever x" categories but it was my fault, not Bungies. Im not defending them, I have tons of other issues with them and this game (yet I love it so) but for once its not their issue. Some other key points- someone mentioned 320 chances during Nightfalls. Agreed, but again a chance is not a guarantee. An opportunity within the PVE experience to gain some end level equipment is a great idea. But not everything should be in its loot pool. That defeats the entire purpose of the raid. Ive said my peace, thanks for the ramble.

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                    • *so when are

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