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작성자: D1eThx
12/16/2015 2:28:50 PM
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Don't be too happy MIDA is back. (Cozmo replied)
Again, the pvp kids have crushed a subclass entirely for pve.
It's the most weighted to pvp, unfair game I've ever played. And after each nerf we just have the kids to bear telling us to suck it up and that we are butt hurt. Then their eyes hit another feature/class/weapon we can say goodbye to in pve.
It takes a lot of time to get an exotic. Sometimes longer to level it up along with all the weapons in a load out.
It takes even longer to get a new exciting subclass. And it's ALWAYS ripped to shreds due to pvp whiners.
Cozmo you have to pass this on to someone.
Tell them to separate changes for pvp from pve. We know you can do it.
It took me HELL to get thorn. A month of playing pvp which I hate. And a tough boss I didn't have any help with. I loved that gun in pve.
Same with [b]shotguns[/b] (which defender is now based on)
[b]pulse rifles[/b] (id just got back into after the last nerf)
[b]auto rifles[/b](same as pulse rifles)
[b]hand cannons[/b] (what the HELL happened to them) which were even specifically broken one by one.
And also [b]fusion rifles[/b] which JUST took a 20% damage nerf ACROSS THE BOARD!
[b]Now sniper rifles and MIDA are they're focus and we know what's going to happen next[/b].
It's impossible to get excited over the rewards in the game now. We just get to look at them pile up in our tiny vault and remember how good they were while every time we visit the boards to say something we get beaten down by the pvp community and hear NOTHING about the subject from anyone official.
It's clear this game wants to go entirely pvp.
The long goal is obviously that.
Honestly, one raid for a year, maybe more. Then concentrate on pvp. That's just crazy.
Please listen to this and at least consider making these changes not affect each other.
Pvp should be entirely different to pve.
And the fun part is watch the kids come in on this and tear me apart. Wait for the name calling and insults.
They're who you're doing all this for.
That's why I've had to slowly move away from destiny along with my entire clan, friends list and family.
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Bungie already "borrowed" some ideas from Warframe when they created Destiny. I strongly suggest they copy how Warframe devs and comunity managers interact with their comunity and how the care for them. Not to mention how often they come up with fresh new content. oh.... and NEW WEAPONS AND ARMOR, not just crappy recycles. #deej #cozmo
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69 답변I'll let them know you would like more separation between PVE and PVP changes. Thanks for voicing your opinions. Please continue giving feedback here on what you like, and what you think can be better.
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1 답변frankly I left destiny for a while now ( I did return but only for sparrow racing , the rest of this $140+ investment can kiss my ass ) because of this nerfing crap. when 2.0 dropped the weapon tuning I like many was utterly disgusted . I can not explain the amount of rage I felt and how bad the nerfs made my stomach churn . I have played games that involved nerfs and buffs but those games [u]ALWAYS[/u] adjusted those weapons and or characters specifically for that game mode . . . NOT A DAMN FULL BOARD ADJUSTMENT .....( that's just lazy as hell ) I had made a few predictions to a friend when I was reading 2.0 notes about tuning and which weapons they will be readjusting in a few months not to mention joked about how long it would take for them to nerf and added [u]OVERNERF[/u] the sunbreakers . now I can say bungie is predictable , as little as effort as possible in testing adjustments/new content , and even less since of urgency producing fixes/adjustments . I feel that nearly every other developer could have done destiny at the very least twice as good . yes destiny was fun but short lived and highly over hyped , frankly I do not think bungie has the talent to make a good fps game any longer . when a developer skimps on features and stable network to over hype a game , weaken players in one mode to balance another and make $100 worth of content irrelevant just to sell $40 more content then that developer should take their ass to Nintendo Wii and stay the F V C K off of real game consoles like Xbox and PlayStation .
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If they really want to change things they need to redo the -blam!-en hit point system in Pvp. Cause ideally for the weapons being designed how they all were, they didn't factor the dmg into Pvp very well that's why everything seems so OP all the tbh the amount of health we have in Pvp is nothing like it should be IMO.
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1 답변Yup, see ya fusions. I'll try you out again when you get the next nerf just to see how bad you've become.
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1 답변작성자: HyperVigiIant 12/19/2015 6:36:29 AMThe Last Word is the best primary weapon at the moment, in my opinion. Most handcannons have a faster time-to-kill than the Mida. I personally feel that people are jumping on the bandwagon to overrate the Mida, and I'm not sure why. Scout rifles have always been the most balanced weapon types.
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5 답변I never felt the weapon nerfs to have any impact on the "pve" side of things. Even after the hand cannon nerf I still use my hunters ace of spaces. Truth be told nerfs have little impact on pve side while make huge impacts on pvp side. The only guns that ever needed a nerf in pve was gHorn and icebreaker.
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2 답변We lost Thorn, Vex, Necrochasm, suros, TLW and countless other guns we LOVED in PVE for PVP reasons. Please look into this Cozmo. Please tell them to separate pvp from pve weapon wise. It's killing our guns and interest in sticking around. Always having our load outs nerfed. They're nerfing classes too. We are being hindered so badly in pve.
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8 답변For a game that is, at best, comprised of about 20% PvP players, you'd figure Bungie would compartmentalize that portion of the game and make weapon and armor adjustments affect that only. For the most part, nothing has ever been overpowered in PvE. That's because the majority of items made in the game were based off of PvE playability. But now we have to contend with the PvPers that cry "nerf" every single time they are killed by a weapon that they deem unfair. Hand cannons are tough at close range, as well as shotguns. Pulse and auto rifles are your big ones for medium range attacks. Snipers and scouts are your distance shooters. They each have powerful attacks in they respective ranges. Why then, are they being made to be so underpowered in PvE?! It's sad that Bungie only cares about the overall functionality of PvP. It will ruin the game over time, IMO. I'm enjoying my Y2 Mida while I can. And it seems that the Y2 stats for Mida are right on with Y1. I bought another Y1 just to compare. It's the same freaking weapon. Same perks, same levels. If people weren't bitching about it last year, why are they now??
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I wanna say, I enjoy how we have the same equipment in pve and pvp, not many games do that BUT, there should be different stats based on the game mode. Just because a shotgun is op in crucible, it doesn't mean it should be nerfed in pve as well. Thank you sir for saying what needed to be said, keeping it sounding professional, using actual facts, not calling Bungie a bunch of idiots like how everyone else would (honestly I think that's the only reason Cozmo responded). If the entire community would say their problems the way you do rather than scream and complain, this game could get much better
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Holy shit! You did it mate! Well done, I'm so fukin happy right now! I've done countless posts on this in countless ways to countless people (Deej and Cozmo directly) and have always been ignored or shredded by the majority of the people on these forums. I'm seriously so stoked hahaha
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1 답변Cozmo only replied because you had his beloved mida in the thread. Plenty of great feedback on here that goes unnoticed. The community never gets a result just a pass on
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Treyarch has been doing just that with all of their weapon balancing. And the latest patch added new mechanics, gear and upgrades to PvP while PvE went completely untouched. They also buffed certain weapons, not types, as well as Nerf'd certain weapons, not types, to make the game more balanced. So it's possible, it just depends on the competence level of the people doing the programming.
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3 답변Bungie has demonstrated time and again that they have zero ability to think for themselves or to stand up to the crucibabies. If they whine loud enough the weapon or class gets gutted in PVP and PVE. It's truly disgraceful.
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fantastic post. The only thing I'd add in the hope Bungie takes heed is that I personally don't play PVP more than one match per day to get the marks. I used to really enjoy it but since TTK frankly its just been broken. Matches more often than not turn into a camping sniperfest at ranges ARs are supposed to cover. This for me makes for an unfluid and unappealing game mechanic that I'll just not engage with. Sadly once all daily content is covered off I tend to just go play something else.
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Excellent post, although I think this is all part of Bungies plan. They WANT everyone to try different weapons, so for it through nerfs. In year1 I was a scout rifle/HC user......now handcannons are out. Year2 it's Scout/pulse.....maybe AR. Now they are killing my PvE shotguns slowly too. We know you can separate PvE and PvP nerfs/buffs......because you have told us AND you have done it, so why not keep it that way? I promise not one stealth vandal not Captain will complain.
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1 답변작성자: D1eThx 12/16/2015 10:39:08 AMCheers Cozmo. Hopefully this will be the start of the end of pve downfall. Thanks a lot man.
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6 답변I would call people that only play one half of the game because they can't handle pvp kids.
