According to the 2.1.0 patch notes, Achlyophage Symbiote now reduces Golden Gun's timer (12 seconds -> 9 seconds. That's a 25% nerf). That's absolutely absurd! Golden Gun's active time (without damage resistance) is already way to short. People have been asking for buffs, and you [i]nerf[/i] it? I just don't get it.
Please tell me that it's just a typo...
Edit:
Here's my reasoning, since many of the replies don't seem to get it.
Golden Gun, in its unmodified state, lasts 12 seconds. In that 12 seconds, you have to:
-Return to a combat hot spot after finding a safe place to activate it (rephrased because I had worded it poorly), because god forbid somebody shoots you with a primary while you're in the animation.
-Hope there are enemies somewhere near you, or you just used your super for literally no reason.
- Hope there's only one enemy, or you're simply dead. Yup, two people with primaries will kill a Golden Gun instantly.
-Hope there's more than one enemy, or you just wasted your super for a single kill.
By the time you've done all of that, your time is up. Period. Kills or not, Golden Gun just doesn't care. He's outta here.
And then they drop it to 9 seconds at the cost of your exotic slot? Please explain to me how that makes sense. It's not a "trade off," it's a straight-up sacrifice. You lose 25% of your timer and get an extra bullet to [i]not[/i] use. Logic? Riiiiight...
And to the salty Sunbreakers in this thread:
Even post-nerf, you get a built-in Achlyophage that gives you 4 extra shots, 14 extra seconds, and damage resistance, and it doesn't even take up your exotic slot. Quit acting like they ruined your super.
[b]This guy said it way better than I ever could in his post, here's his reply:[/b]
[quote]https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/178885091/0/0
Been following this post since it came up and a lot of comments are along the lines of "you get an extra shot, get over it" or "its a trade off" or my personal favorite "just use it better"
It seems like the majority of people who don't use Hunters don't get why we are angry.
They gave us a worthless exotic. They took a somewhat useful, if situational, exotic and made it a willing debuff to have equipped.
That is why we are angry. They might as well had kept it in Y1.[/quote]
Another Edit:
For those still calling it a fair trade-off, here's a special update just for you:
[b][u]Patch 2.2.0[/u]
Hey guys, DeeJ here! Since our test "rebalance" of Achlyophage Symbiote was so well recieved, we decided to share the love with some of the other popular exotics. You know, to... Uhh... Prevent them from being the only option. Yeah.
Here are the changes:
Armamentarium - All grenade durations are reduced by 25% to balance the extra area control/damage.
Impossible Machines - Now reduces super duration by 25% to balance the extra kill(s).
The Ram - Now reduces Agility to offset the extra Armor.
Saint-14 - Now reduces WoD durability by 33% to offset the blinding feature.
That's all! More balance updates coming in 2.3.0![/b]
Call it a hunch, but I doubt that update would be recieved with open arms.
[u]Edit:[/u] Looks like the whole thing was a mistake in the code, they only meant to nerf it by 0.025%.
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4 답변작성자: Mizo 12/11/2015 7:49:56 PM
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작성자: Edgin Mor 12/12/2015 5:31:40 PMIt seems fair at first sight, you can't have it both ways, but when you look again, its like Crest of lupi having its perk but you die quicker or inmost light but you cannot use unstoppable. Or even ruin wings but less special drops etc... I guess its 50/50 but i think its not fair, should be more bullets same time. However, usually i take my 3 shots before half the time is up so...
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1 답변작성자: Qrazy_train 12/12/2015 5:37:14 PM
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[i]I main a Warlock and agree with this post. I use each class about 33.33333% But Warlock is the one I prefer to use and have since beta, I still think this was a bad move. Hopefully if there is enough complaints, it will be rectified.[/i]
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2 답변1: Helmet is ugly as ass. Never used it. 2; Adapt. 3: The first step to solving a problem is crying about it. You're doing good, lad.
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I don't main a hunter at ALL. But I do think this is crap. I use to use that helm a bit when I did play mu hunter. The point is to get 4 shots. They should have made the timer longer to get the 4th shot. That's the whole point of the helm. Or with the lower time it should also buff the damage slightly. Make it worth the time difference. Not much like 1.25 damage when wearing it.
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Golden Gun was and still is one of the best supers in the game, if they buffed it at all it would be overtly OP and broken just as badly as Hammer of Sol was. So no one with a brain was asking for it to be buffed, and nerfing a single exotic ever so slightly to make it a tradeoff is entirely reasonable.
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10 답변작성자: WILLxLOVE 12/12/2015 12:42:06 PMI really do not understand the reasoning behind shortening the time of Symbiote. If it was by itself and there was no other super to compare it to, like Hammer of Sol, I could see the change being warranted. GG is a really good super and having that amount of time was considered a little OP by a few hunters, but not since Hammer of Sol. 1x Golden gun can one shot most things. So can 1x Hammer of Sol. With the Exotic Symbiote, you get one extra shot (edit: total of 4). Without any exotic, Titans can throw 6 or 7 hammers. Golden Gun has slightly more usable range, while Hammer of Sol can track. Both supers can have splash damage. Only Hammer of Sol can heal. Only Hammer of Sol has a solid general health buff upon activation. I don't see how that seems equal or balanced in relevance to each other. To me it seems HoS is easily the most utilitarian super compared to GG, but would honestly like to have a discussion about it.
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Gg is actually a good super i know people how could pop it in the mist of combat and still get all 4 shots with the helm (cant spell the name and god forbid someone will pop up like a high school english teacher) yea its a little unfair but it is a trade off i have played a hunter since the beta and day one release i am a vet trust me so i do have idea of what i am talking about and plus supers are suppose to be used unless ur already near a high traffic area
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작성자: CrashBang_XD 12/12/2015 12:33:35 PMWait wait wait the badass exotics that we equip for power and specific bonuses are being shit on? Symbiote wasn't the only one hit btw, manacles tracking was reduces by 25% aswell This is fûcking ridiculous
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2 답변Haven't tried the helmet yet (nightstalker ftw!) but it seems silly that it reduces time. By this logic, forgemaster on the sunbreaker should reduce super duration as well because you get more hammers
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