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작성자: The hive deserved better 11/23/2015 7:43:46 AM
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Can everyone shut up about subclass "imbalance"

None of the posts I've seen talk about legitimate problems or bugs it's nothing but " HoS OP, stormcaller OP, tether so weak." How about we all whine about actual problems? Examples off my head: Axion bolt hit detection, bolt grenades simply blowing up like a regular grenade after death, melee energy being taken on hits that won't deal damage, bladedancer hit detection, backstab working on someone's face, sunsinger having no agility on activation of radiance for some reason, shoulder charge missing for unknown reasons, thermal vent one hitting people(unless it supposed to be able to), sights sometimes glitching when using stormtrance, nightstalker vortex doing more than voidwalker vortex (insert logic), and finally voidwalker melee sometimes being as strong as shoulder charge. How about we rant about these things instead? No? Right. Edit: watch this get no attention lol people don't care for the real problems Edit2: if you came here through my link, please address one of my problems listed then we can discuss a topic of your choice. Please no biased whining :| Edit3: its also come to my attention that people think sunbreakers are subpar without a super. Cauterize,stoke the forge, thermal vent, melting point, fleetfire, and fire keeper called. They said stop your unjustified complaining. Edit4: please don't come to tell me these things aren't important. You won't be adressed.

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  • Here we have a wild retard quite common on the destiny forums! Be cautious they can be quite aggressive 12 year olds!

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    • Here's some ways to beat sunbreakers: -suppressor grenades -tether -FOH -Nova bomb -black spindle (headshot will kill them even if they have max armor) -one sniper shot and one primary shot -more than one competent team mate -grenades stick and one primary shot -run away when you hear the super activate -use your own super to kill them Honestly just don't take them on 1 v 1 unless your at a distance and you will be good. Hope this helps because way too many people post how "op" they are.

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      • I played alot of iron banner games lastnight where my team or opposing team had 270-280 light level titans. I even saw a few 230's. But u know what they still did good and were in top 3 because they were running fukking sunbreaker it then occurred to me how much of a fukking crutch this class is. When u can go into a competitive mp game type in which light level matters, be 20-40 light levels lower and still do decently good because ur goddamn super is so damn lethal makes it broken and op. Sorry but yesterday was the day it really occurred to me. No other class has a super that can make u gud when u are simply under light and overpowered, but sunbreaker does For the record I've never complained about sunbreaker being op untill now

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        • 작성자: Lull9 11/23/2015 7:32:13 AM
          Subpar? If there was a "no super" playlist, would anybody play Sunbreaker? [spoiler]You're delusional if you say yes.[/spoiler]

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          • 작성자: OPC P1nc 11/23/2015 12:07:51 PM
            OK ... the NWO is enslaving humanity and you sheeple stand by and do nothing... Indoctrinated mindless sheeple drones most of you are ... when are you goint to realize its our OWN government that is plotting against us to start building a one world government in which the ELITE rules absolute and the rest will be reduced to slaves... Allmost all the recent terrorist attacks are false flag attacks by our own governments putting the blame on terrorist groups they created to destabalize humanity into accepting the new order and laws that will enslave you ... Im not joking ;-) Probably going to get a lot of people calling me tin foil idiot... could this be the reason why smart people focus on dumb shit...coz they know the ignorant masses will not listen anyway... they are simply to stupid and indoctrinated ;-) They will even fight to defend the lies... dumb sheeple

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            • Shoulder charge hit detection is annoying af.... I'd love for that to get fixed

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              • Voices must be heard guardians. So I ask you to never shut up. If you have a problem with a game you invested money in speak your mind. How else will your voices be heard if it's not in the masses.

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                • Everything you complain about is just as valid as a stormcaller or Sunbreaker op complaint. Got a vendetta against hunters bud? Because almost all of your complaints have to do with them.

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                  • 작성자: KingMZ35 11/23/2015 3:51:05 PM
                    I can't tell whether or not you are being serious

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                    • I haven't had a problem killing a HoS with 1 golden gun shot yet so I don't know why ppl are whining

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                      • Or a tether taking 6 years to actually tether somebody once it hits a surface. Enough time for someone 20 yards away to actually get in your face before you even touch the ground. I use black hole btw. Best perk there is.

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                      • Blade Dancer needs some serious fixing. The hit detection is terribly inconsistent, you sometimes have to hit 3x for it to register with a green bar connection Overall melees are pretty fuked, hitting someone, losing your melee charge, and doing no damage Hawkmoon decides not to register 1/3 of your shots Tethers hitting Stormcallers square in the chest and not taking them out of super There's plenty more. Obviously the developers don't play their own game or shlt like this would have gotten their attention by now An example of arc blade not detecting hits http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/sean%20cope/video/12873697

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                      • 작성자: Erijian 11/23/2015 7:38:56 AM
                        Add in Bolt Grenades fizzing out and dealing hardly any damage if you die before it detonates, and Melee Charges being used up even if you dealt no damage to the enemy and I'll be in full support. Tired of Firebolt Grenades randomly failing on me, and I'm even more tired of having my melee charge get used up and for some reason not getting a Flame Shield out of it. ..Sunsinger problems.

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                        • I'd rather they sort the raid drops before they look at the problems you listed

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                          • What about shooting an arrow at an incoming HoS and just bounces of, or shooting someone with shotgun and it says imune... had that multiple times in IB yesterday

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                            • Ive an issue to address. Grenades like axion bolt and firebolt. If you happen to die while throwing it in my experience theyll sort of blow up on impact rather than send out their targeted attack. Doesnt normally matter except it does less than 50 damage which leaves people well within kill range laughing off what is normally unavoidable death.

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                              • Panties

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                                • Axion bolt just exploding on the initial throw and only doing 20 damage.

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                                  • I'll translate the wall of text for other people to understand easier: Op: I DONT LIKE IT WHEN OTHERS HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS THAT ARENT MY OWN SO IM GOING TO WHINE,BITCH AND THROW A FIT. EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG AND IM ALWAYS RIGHT RAGRAJRAHRAHDJXODMK" There we go. You are welcome.

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                                    • 작성자: DehCanadianJedi 11/22/2015 10:16:03 PM
                                      You forgot the Glitch with Axion bolt exploding without releasing the little a$$ seekers and dealing like 25 damage. But you did bring up a lot of valid points, but unfortunately they're all ones that people don't really look for or pay attention to.

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                                      • These are all valid problems, but overall class balance and even weapon balance is terrible in destiny. And you come across balance problems more frequently than others, making them more irritating, making more people vocal/whine about them. If bungie can't make a balanced game, then I hate to say it but I don't see any of these getting fixed. I hope I'm wrong and bungie gets their shit together, because all of this is infuriating and it is making the forums toxic. I guess what I'm saying boils down to thank you for making one of the few unbiased and actual discussions about problems in destiny.

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                                        • I hear what you're saying bro. There's a lot of garbage in this game that is never addressed by either bungie nor player. For me, it's the lag in pvp. Major issue, never addressed. And when it is, it's always the players fault for their enemy having a red bar and being nearly unkillable. But HoS is stupid broken. Even pros and multiple streamers make that claim. It's not the killing ability, it's the invincibility that's the issue. I run void walker and feel that my subclass is sub par to any of the others. And I don't bitch about it though, just think HoS is a little too op. You can go on an 8 kill streak with just that super. No other super can do that. Just saying.

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                                          • Shotgunned a guy in banner yesterday. Depleted his shield and and put a small dent in the lifebar. Proceed to blinkstrike him. Blinkstrike connects, escape artist activates for me (meaning I hit my target). Health bar didn't even move from where my shotgun left it.... must be a melee thing like when I arc blade a player five times(hearing it connect everytime) and they don't even take damage

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                                            • Well you're bringing it up so you're not helping either.

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