What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

People act like everything that they don't like about the game is an injustice done directly to the by Bungie. "I can't get kills with last word but I want the chaperone, F U Bungie!" It's because bungie has created this environment of customer to developer communication that this happens. They're just taking a really good thing for granted, and they think that since Bungie is supposed to be listening to its player community (which it is), then everything that they don't like about the game is Bungie attempting to screw the player, which is just not so. I try to stay out the butthurt threads because I've realized after a year of playing this game that some people are just going to complain, and if they don't have something to complain about, they'll find something.

are u -blam!-ing mental? u have obv never played a good game regardless of ur timeline. becasue destiny is a -blam!-ing travesty. remember that over priced 40$ expansion you bought that made the previous 100$ worthless? so, u know kings fall raid right? well, that raid was shown off on the FIRST reveal trailer for this game. a year and 140$ later we still havent gotten the full game they showed. whole areas, cutscenes, EMOTES, and on and on and on and on have been cut from the game. u have NO idea what you are talking about

If any game is going to kill Destiny it will be The Division.

I think Bungie biggest problem is they are trying to make EVERYONE happy. They need to realize you can't make everyone happy. I think they need to pick a direction and stick with it. As a company they really do listen to their community but it's almost in a sense of them being bullied into decisions, for lack of a better term. Now they are in a position where they are in pretty deep and if they don't respond to every little complaint someone has they get crucified for it.

How dare you even mention Destiny in the same breath as Ultima? May you step on a Lego and the dog crap in your slipper. I'm an old gamer. Pretty sure older than yourself. Bungie are ambitious yes, but are they up to the task? TTK was a step in the right direction, so maybe. Actually Ultima Online is the only game I've spent more time on than Destiny.

Unless you played Zork, you suck.

Bungie isn't doing anything new. CCP has been doing it with EvE online for over a decade and quite frankly, Bungies approach is terribly lacking in comparison.

Dialogue updates. That's all you got? Here's why people are annoyed at Bungie: Here's everything Bungie has done to increase the grind: •Weapon parts drought... •Material grinding for the EXOTIC SWORDS!!! •Time-Gated exotics that require you to be available on a specific day in the week in order to do it. (bungie decides when) •Removed Nightfall XP Bonus •Removed Nightfall Faction Rep Gain •Reduced Mote of Light Drop Rate •Reduced Strange Coin Drop Rate •Removed 5,000 XP bounties •Removed 5,000 XP Package from daily public event •Reduced faction Rep gains •Reduced Cryptarch REP gains from engrams •Reduced Patrol Mission REP gains •Limited strike Legendary mark Gains to 3 strikes a week •Removed Legendary Mark rewards from crucible playlists •Removed Legendary Mark rewards from strike playlists •Added Double RNG to Raid Drops •Increased Xur Heavy Ammo Price •Removed Xur Engrams that can be purchased with motes The practices Bungie employs to exploit its customers, and more broadly, the state of the gaming industry as a whole. It's not about whether someone personally buys these games or not - it's frustrating watching the way these companies have taken gaming and made financially milking the player the priority over making the game as good/fun/satisfying as it could have really been. If we keep accepting this as the norm and paying premiums for these paper-thin portions, these companies are going to keep pushing the limit of how far they can exploit us. You do understand that, right? Right? The saddest thing is when a person believes that they are paying out their money of their own coherent and untainted will instead of corporate manipulation. Yeah, you keep on paying out your hard earned money to Bungie. "Levels" and gaining them via XP was simply a PR ploy to con people into buying the DLC under the auspices that Bungie was respecting peoples' disdain for excessive grinding. They purposely kept light-leveling extremely vague throughout the launch so people bought TTK without seeing the grind was in fact made worse than ever before. Finally, they went in after purchase, via patches to further nerf progress through the game AFTER the market saturated and the reviews were already in. They respond to every single hinderance to the player's activity as "a deep and complex bug" (paraphrased). Oddly, everything players have found accidentally beneficial were "simple bugs, easily patched over in a matter of days". A "deep bug" shouldn't actually be able to exist in the game. This company has made over a half Billion dollars. They literally could hire 10,000 software engineers to address these bugs and not lose a single nickel. The one thing not broken in this game is the PR machine running it; it's the most effective spin in the history of the business.

Oh look another bungie dick rider.

Here's my take on it. Granted I'm no expert in the videogame department, or mmo style games what so ever. Actually, I've had an xbl account forever, and roommates and friends have put more mileage on my box than me. As I got older, spending more time at home with my wife and daughter, a buddy told me to buy the game. However, I found a real enjoyment in the game. I started playing at the dark below, and can say that this game has been keeping my attention. I've turned into a video game nerd, in love with the game and its content. Then poe came out, I was super excited. After building a 34 light level on 3 characters, I became disappointed with the content Poe lacked. Then Ttk came out. This update was awesome how it was. A ton more content, and additional raid to crush, and I was a happy camper. However, after being completely screwed over by last months iron banner, this game started to upset me a bit. I hate pvp in this game, but am halfway decent at it. So i do grind the ib every month so I can get different gear... That didnt happen last ib. Also, the hard raid came out. I considered myself a bit of a Sherpa for this, and took my raid team, and many other random lfg teams through the hard raid. What do I get from oryx? A whole lot of nothing. I'm not complaining about rng in concept, but the implementation of bungies rng system. I've completed the hard raid 12 times, and have yet to see a single harrowed primary drop. I guess the drop rate is 1 in 5, which means I should have gotten 2 primaries so far. That chaps my ass. Bungie does a great job with keeping the game fresh, but why can't they fix big issues (like the quiver on the hunter, the pathetic ib drop rate, or the non existent rng for oryx hard), but can implement a festival so easily, or 3oc abuse so fast? I just don't get it. I gotta say, now that I am a new found video game nerd, I am looking elsewhere to get my fix until bungie decides to prioritize their patches.